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Can we turn off the new jump animation?

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Lee Trout
The Salvelinus Fontinalis Corporation
#1461 - 2013-09-14 10:04:11 UTC
btw great post elena. agreed.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#1462 - 2013-09-14 10:05:53 UTC
Lee Trout wrote:
This thread has has gone way off topic, and become personal for some.

the jump animation just looks and sounds bad.... so what? let us turn it off if we want. if that's too much work technically then that's OK we'll deal with it.

Allowing the player-base to customize the game experience is a good thing. Try another game and you will see that allowing players to customize the game to suit themselves (as long as it's not cheating) is awesome, and that's why it's prominent throughout the entire gaming industry and has been for a long time.

I assumed I would be able to turn it off based on experience with computer gaming in general, that's how i ended up at this thread. Unfortunately the thread has been hijacked by trolls and now it's a mess.

This started as a simple request for an in-game customization feature. That's it. Perhaps there is a more appropriate place to discuss medical issues and/or delusions regarding the development studio.

Do you work for ccp? thought not. They are adults and don't need anyone to speak for them on the forums. If you're an admin.... PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD.


It is not "customization" when it affects player health and forces them to avoid IRL a unavoidable game feature. I don't have any problem nor my gameplay suffers if i am forced to look away from the screen when jumping, but to some players who are not as carebear as me, that's not an option.

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Lee Trout
The Salvelinus Fontinalis Corporation
#1463 - 2013-09-14 10:28:15 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:


It is not "customization" when it affects player health and forces them to avoid IRL a unavoidable game feature. I don't have any problem nor my gameplay suffers if i am forced to look away from the screen when jumping, but to some players who are not as carebear as me, that's not an option.


I don't understand what your getting at there. having the ability to turn it off (customization) is a good thing. u enjoy the game enough that u play even though u often look away in disgust apparently. So it would be nice to have the option to turn it off and that's not an unreasonable suggestion.
Huang Mo
Tianxia Inc
#1464 - 2013-09-14 19:05:35 UTC
Kirren D'marr wrote:


  • Since CCP stated their intentions to "improve" the animation, they have been completely silent on this issue, offering no updates, no response to feedback, and no indication that they still intend to do anything about this


This is really annoying.
Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1465 - 2013-09-16 22:27:47 UTC
Huang Mo wrote:
Kirren D'marr wrote:


  • Since CCP stated their intentions to "improve" the animation, they have been completely silent on this issue, offering no updates, no response to feedback, and no indication that they still intend to do anything about this


This is really annoying.


I'm glad someone agrees.

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_

Lynndie Huren
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1466 - 2013-09-17 07:38:53 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

As I have said before, they should feel free to express their opinion.

They should also be prepared to deal with the fact that some people will disagree with them (which should prompt a frank discussion of the two points of view), and others will simply troll them (which should justifiably be ignored by both sides).

Ultimately people expressing opposing opinions only helps your case in a way, it keeps the thread going a bit longer. If you didn't have a lot of people genuinely expressing the opinion that CCP's stance in this is reasonable this thread would have stalled out weeks ago.


No, you don't "disagree with them" - you just make "HTFU" posts here. A lot of them.


A valid "disagree" post sounds like this:

"No! I don't want the "off" checkbox, because it will give you/Goons/someone else an unfair advantage, because... It will impact MY game, because..."


Now, your posts go more like this:

"CCP told you no. Deal with that. Whiners. You don't like new stuff. We like the new stuff. HTFU. Whiners. Hurr durr".



Explain how the option will impact YOUR game. And don't use "we" - you do not represent anyone but yourself.
helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1467 - 2013-09-17 11:11:49 UTC
i have to agree, scrap the new animation, build a better one or go back to the old system (even if you have to rewrite it cause the old system was apparently deleted )

the new animation IMHO just looks bad.

I mean, swirly clouds around the gate when u jump... sorry I just think it looks amateur and ugly. If there was lines of blurred stars when u jump that might look better.. just ditch the ugly clouds.

On my computer which is way above the min specs, the transistion through the tunnel is not smooth, it stutters slightly atleast twice.

Atleast the old gold jump animation looked slick and I really didnt mind the loading screen (its much better than what we have now)

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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#1468 - 2013-09-17 12:24:26 UTC
Can we just have Star Wards Hyperspace jumps please? Pretty sure that is what everyone wants (if for some reason we can't go back to the old one that is)
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1469 - 2013-09-17 13:02:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Tao Dolcino
I too wish to desactivate this useless, confusing, unimmersive and resources-wasting graphical gadget. I don't mind a simple loading bar instead.
If some people enjoy it, i'm happy for them, but give us the choice.
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#1470 - 2013-09-17 19:00:36 UTC
I agree that before 1.1 there was a Problem for Motion Sick people, but now with 1.1 its gone and everyone that keeps Spamming about that Feature because it isnt fit in your Personal taste is just anoying, Period.
Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1471 - 2013-09-17 19:21:32 UTC
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
I agree that before 1.1 there was a Problem for Motion Sick people, but now with 1.1 its gone and everyone that keeps Spamming about that Feature because it isnt fit in your Personal taste is just anoying, Period.


Because you are the absolute medical authority on what causes motion sickness, and you have comprehensive knowledge of how every individual is affected.

The arrogance is strong with this one.

I can't speak for others, but it still gives me headaches if I forget to look away. No improvement of this with 1.1.

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_

BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#1472 - 2013-09-17 20:17:20 UTC
You know this reminds me of time when we wanted changes to the jump effect! I think at this point we are heading to the same point again with jump effects! We aren't happy with it yet! give us something better? :)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#1473 - 2013-09-17 20:34:54 UTC
Lynndie Huren wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

As I have said before, they should feel free to express their opinion.

They should also be prepared to deal with the fact that some people will disagree with them (which should prompt a frank discussion of the two points of view), and others will simply troll them (which should justifiably be ignored by both sides).

Ultimately people expressing opposing opinions only helps your case in a way, it keeps the thread going a bit longer. If you didn't have a lot of people genuinely expressing the opinion that CCP's stance in this is reasonable this thread would have stalled out weeks ago.


No, you don't "disagree with them" - you just make "HTFU" posts here. A lot of them.


A valid "disagree" post sounds like this:

"No! I don't want the "off" checkbox, because it will give you/Goons/someone else an unfair advantage, because... It will impact MY game, because..."


Now, your posts go more like this:

"CCP told you no. Deal with that. Whiners. You don't like new stuff. We like the new stuff. HTFU. Whiners. Hurr durr".



Explain how the option will impact YOUR game. And don't use "we" - you do not represent anyone but yourself.

My stance has always been that I have sympathy for those that are physically affected.

I have also pointed out that those demanding an off switch are wasting their time as CCP has pointedly stated that their focus is making the effect more friendly to those sensitive to motion sickness, and they have explained why.

I have further stated that they can, of course, feel free to continue to do so... however they should be prepared for people to strongly disagree with them as well as point out an off switch is apparently not an option on the table.

None of the above is a HTFU post... none of the above is a "I don't want you to have an off switch because" post.

Just because someone doesn't agree entirely with many of the people in this thread does not mean you are under attack. Calm down.

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Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#1474 - 2013-09-17 23:36:59 UTC
Ranger1, I no longer read your posts, because the above poster summed them up very well. But whatever you undoubtedly replied with . . thanks for the bump.Smile

Hey CCP, give us any new info now? Question

I'm still waiting to have jump experiences I don't have to look away from. And I'm waiting to see my new system and have the autoscan "features" only happen when I want them to (i.e. if I turn the damn thing off in one system it persists in the off state until I turn it back on again if I might want it on again).

Btw, my second of four accounts already canceled and waiting to go offline in a few days. Will only be two left then. You might not miss that $260 per year, or even $520 per year if you don't fix this by Christmas. But I doubt I'm alone in this. Your arrogant and unresponsive imposition of unneeded features may cost you.

I love your game. But if parts of it, those so prevalent, make me nauseous (jumping gates) and annoyed (mandatory autoscan upon entering the new system), such that playing the game loses its appeal. And the accounts evaporate. But if imposing a nauseating jump visual, and then imposing an annoying barrage of green and red diamonds with a cheesy tron radar wave (which clutter up my screen and interfere with clicking on what is important to fighting) are so important to you then we will part ways. Sad

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Lynndie Huren
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1475 - 2013-09-18 17:08:16 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

My stance has always been that I have sympathy for those that are physically affected.


Sure. If you do have genuine sympathy, don't make condescending posts.
Like the ones this thread is filled with.

Ranger 1 wrote:

I have also pointed out that those demanding an off switch are wasting their time as CCP has pointedly stated that their focus is making the effect more friendly to those sensitive to motion sickness, and they have explained why.


There goes your sympathy.

Ranger 1 wrote:

I have further stated that they can, of course, feel free to continue to do so... however they should be prepared for people to strongly disagree with them as well as point out an off switch is apparently not an option on the table.


Let me rephrase that for you. HTFU, whiners. Adapt or leave.

Ranger 1 wrote:

None of the above is a HTFU post... none of the above is a "I don't want you to have an off switch because" post.



So, why don't you want me to have an off switch? How is that going to impact YOUR game?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#1476 - 2013-09-18 17:40:44 UTC
Lynndie Huren wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

My stance has always been that I have sympathy for those that are physically affected.


Sure. If you do have genuine sympathy, don't make condescending posts.
Like the ones this thread is filled with.

Ranger 1 wrote:

I have also pointed out that those demanding an off switch are wasting their time as CCP has pointedly stated that their focus is making the effect more friendly to those sensitive to motion sickness, and they have explained why.


There goes your sympathy.

Ranger 1 wrote:

I have further stated that they can, of course, feel free to continue to do so... however they should be prepared for people to strongly disagree with them as well as point out an off switch is apparently not an option on the table.


Let me rephrase that for you. HTFU, whiners. Adapt or leave.

Ranger 1 wrote:

None of the above is a HTFU post... none of the above is a "I don't want you to have an off switch because" post.



So, why don't you want me to have an off switch? How is that going to impact YOUR game?


Wow, your reading comprehension skills need a lot of work.. Big smileBig smileBig smile

Instead of trying to insert your own attempt at wit on my every word, perhaps you should just take them at face value as they mean exactly what I said. This is EVE, not bizzaro world... and last time I checked this is not "Opposite Day". Blink

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1477 - 2013-09-18 18:11:52 UTC
Well CCP can check their logs, I for once do not play anymore for MONTHS, only login to change skills because I cannot make more than 4-5 jumps before it affects me and I cannot play anymore.

If ccp does not fix this STUPID, badly THINKED, and AWFUL disaster of ignoring your costumers during their feedback in test, then I will eventually be forced to abandon this game.

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Vexed Nova
NovaTech Holdings
#1478 - 2013-09-18 18:54:02 UTC
Please don't turn off the jump animation. My run of EVE Online Barf Bags is almost complete. I don't want to get stuck with 100,000 units of them. AKA stuck holding the bag.

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Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1479 - 2013-09-19 16:35:04 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
My stance has always been that I have sympathy for those that are physically affected.


We all know this is a load of crap; your tone has been nothing but condescending towards anyone who has claimed any kind of physical affectation from this.

Ranger 1 wrote:
I have also pointed out that those demanding an off switch are wasting their time as CCP has pointedly stated that their focus is making the effect more friendly to those sensitive to motion sickness, and they have explained why.


The problem is that they have not explained "how." By not anticipating these problems, or considering test server or internal feedback, CCP has indicated a complete lack of understanding of the nature of the problem. Why are we supposed to believe that they have suddenly somehow acquired the knowledge necessary to make these improvements? I have little faith that they are truly addresing any of the concerns expressed by the players on this issue; I think they are just hoping that people will quiet down and give up.

Ranger 1 wrote:
I have further stated that they can, of course, feel free to continue to do so... however they should be prepared for people to strongly disagree with them as well as point out an off switch is apparently not an option on the table.

None of the above is a HTFU post... none of the above is a "I don't want you to have an off switch because" post.

Just because someone doesn't agree entirely with many of the people in this thread does not mean you are under attack. Calm down.


You claim to only be interested in honest disagreement, yet when you are given direct questions for discussion of that disagreement, you ignore them entirely. In doing so, you've lost whatever shreds of credibility you may have had. You are a troll, plain and simple; stop pretending to be anything else.

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#1480 - 2013-09-19 17:23:52 UTC
Quote:
You claim to only be interested in honest disagreement, yet when you are given direct questions for discussion of that disagreement, you ignore them entirely. In doing so, you've lost whatever shreds of credibility you may have had. You are a troll, plain and simple; stop pretending to be anything else.


That would require direct questions instead of accusations indicating I mean exactly the opposite of what I have said. Blink

The only question I have seen directed at me is "Why do I oppose adding an off switch"... which is something I have never done.

I have only pointed out that CCP directly stated that is not the direction they wish to take, so repeatedly demanding it is a waste of everyone's time. If that effort were instead channeled into making constructive suggestions on how to improve the effect to alleviate any physical side effects ( which is a path CCP is more than willing to explore) then you might actually get somewhere.

I have offered various suggestions along this line, because that might actually be of help to those that need it instead of wasting my time with pointless whining.

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