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CCP amuses me when you all thought ice and r64 were the only score this patch they bring you....

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Lara Dantreb
Reisende des Schwarzschild Grenze
#61 - 2013-06-05 15:09:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lara Dantreb
Grozen, your village has called, their idiot is missing...

Edit : I guess you misunderstood something, EVE teached me how it's hard to see the detail that will make the difference with thousands of players...

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Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#62 - 2013-06-05 15:53:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Grozen
Only 2people in this topic came even remotely close to guess what could it be and my offer still stands if you think this change was ever anounced ANYWHERE be it forums or patches or even in test server forums I offer 10b wager against that statement with cribba as third party against anyone.I'm really considering keeping this to myself until someone decides to burn 10b, so I can put you all trolls where you belong but I'm having hard time being complete ******* like large part of the eve community seems to be.

The biggest mistake of those who are searching is they are looking at wide region even going outside of what I mentioned this is stricly industrial change and it only affects 2 small areas in said industry but it still brings large market impact.But the chance for you to find it if you don't deal with industrial stuff is close to zero.

Here is the biggest hint I've given in this topic:
Open the market and look what has changed dramatically in the past day.

knowledge is power.
Grenduk
Grey Manufacturing
#63 - 2013-06-05 16:08:12 UTC
OP has held his story long enough to peak my interest. How about you just mail the tip to the non-trolls of the thread?
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#64 - 2013-06-05 16:13:27 UTC
Grenduk wrote:
OP has held his story long enough to peak my interest. How about you just mail the tip to the non-trolls of the thread?


You know yesterday that thought crossed my mind, however if I don't tell everyone it will only create more hate in our community.Eve is a complex game and the people here are also much different than in other games.Eve has both good and ill players whos only goals are to inflict damage and grief in others.I've always strived to make our community more caring because even if many will not agree, many people are so stuck to the game that at some point it impacts their life.I do not wish to bring more hate in this sick world we already have enough so if I ever disclose this find it will be for everyone.

knowledge is power.
Amsterdam Conversations
Doomheim
#65 - 2013-06-05 16:18:45 UTC
Look at this guy trying to get people to throw all sorts of wild isk-making opportunities at him, just so he can make money, because he's late to the party.

He's probably going to tell us that Drakes take 5 Trit less to build or something dumb.
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#66 - 2013-06-05 16:22:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Grozen
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
Look at this guy trying to get people to throw all sorts of wild isk-making opportunities at him, just so he can make money, because he's late to the party.

He's probably going to tell us that Drakes take 5 Trit less to build or something dumb.


People like you make my day.I can't remember when was the last time I've had so much laugh over mmo.Its not that small of a change.If you had taken the time to read my topic you would see I mentioned i would make 13b profit from this does this really sound like 5trit change?

As i typed this im totally out of liquid isk and even now theres still tons of pie left.Rough calculations about 12-14b profit to be had still spread all over eve.Let me translate this for dummies.If i decide to spill the beans it equals to 12b giveaway.

Also you cannot call stupidity or myth that which YOU know nothing about.

knowledge is power.
Kadl
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2013-06-05 16:48:34 UTC
Can you confirm the following information about your score?

1) It is closely related to an industrial process (perhaps items involved in manufacturing or invention).
2) You believe it is a legitimate irregularity and therefore not likely to cause a CCP claim of exploits (not like the faction war exploit).
3) It takes a couple of seconds to implement (perhaps buying something).
4) The return will be within 2-3 weeks. This is confusing since part 3 comes from a statement that the return was 2 seconds. Perhaps the time on return is increasing, or perhaps you were confusing implementation vs time on return in the post about 2 seconds.

There is a game called Zendo. You are supposed to figure out a spacial design based on induction. It can be quite difficult to figure out the puzzle even when the solution seems simple to someone who knows it. A friend of mine tried a pentagon which stumped us. It was obvious to him, but difficult to find inductively.

I guess we will see what odd corner of eve industry changed around 19:00.
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#68 - 2013-06-05 16:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Grozen
Kadl wrote:
Can you confirm the following information about your score?

1) It is closely related to an industrial process (perhaps items involved in manufacturing or invention).
2) You believe it is a legitimate irregularity and therefore not likely to cause a CCP claim of exploits (not like the faction war exploit).
3) It takes a couple of seconds to implement (perhaps buying something).
4) The return will be within 2-3 weeks. This is confusing since part 3 comes from a statement that the return was 2 seconds. Perhaps the time on return is increasing, or perhaps you were confusing implementation vs time on return in the post about 2 seconds.

There is a game called Zendo. You are supposed to figure out a spacial design based on induction. It can be quite difficult to figure out the puzzle even when the solution seems simple to someone who knows it. A friend of mine tried a pentagon which stumped us. It was obvious to him, but difficult to find inductively.

I guess we will see what odd corner of eve industry changed around 19:00.


Responding in order of questions:
1.Yes but not only.It involves several layers of industry.
Also it depends for which of its layers are we speaking.
2.The return is different for each of the industry layers that it involves.Some are rather fast and are also market related, others take days, the longest take a week or 3-4days if you speed it up.I can't define better without telling what it is.
3.This is a legit change not an exploit.Similar change was done in the past by ccp.
4.This change impacts about 10+- different market items-Second biggest hint I've given today

knowledge is power.
RAW23
#69 - 2013-06-05 17:09:58 UTC  |  Edited by: RAW23
Lara Dantreb wrote:
Grozen, your village has called, their idiot is missing...

EVE teached me how it's hard to see the detail...



Did they send the understudy out to find him?




Sorry, couldn't resist, no offence intended.

You'll probably tell me English is your second language and I'll feel really bad. Sad

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Shainai
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-06-05 17:29:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Shainai
RAW23 wrote:
Lara Dantreb wrote:
Grozen, your village has called, their idiot is missing...

EVE teached me how it's hard to see the detail...



Did they send the understudy out to find him?




Sorry, couldn't resist, no offence intended.

You'll probably tell me English is your second language and I'll feel really bad. Sad



I pretty much thought the same thing RAW, was gonna comment but thought it may not be his primary language.
Lara Dantreb
Reisende des Schwarzschild Grenze
#71 - 2013-06-05 17:34:12 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Lara Dantreb wrote:
Grozen, your village has called, their idiot is missing...

EVE teached me how it's hard to see the detail...



Did they send the understudy out to find him?



Sorry, couldn't resist, no offence intended.

You'll probably tell me English is your second language and I'll feel really bad. Sad


No probs, but be insured I regret my poor english. Once, I made laugh a whole system because I had mixed "consuming" and "consummating" in local system chat. Oops

---   Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005  ---
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#72 - 2013-06-05 17:43:50 UTC
English is my 2nd language too :D.
Last chance for people to put their money where their mouth is.I give you the oportunity to prove that "I haven't found anything sugnificant".My 10b against yours.

knowledge is power.
RAW23
#73 - 2013-06-05 17:45:06 UTC
Lara Dantreb wrote:
RAW23 wrote:
Lara Dantreb wrote:
Grozen, your village has called, their idiot is missing...

EVE teached me how it's hard to see the detail...



Did they send the understudy out to find him?



Sorry, couldn't resist, no offence intended.

You'll probably tell me English is your second language and I'll feel really bad. Sad


No probs, but be insured I regret my poor english. Once, I made laugh a whole system because I had mixed "consuming" and "consummating" in local system chat. Oops


Your English is much better than my anything else, so don't regret it too much. The rest of the world puts us native speakers to shame.

Mixing up consuming and consummating is a classic though. All sorts of things can be done with whipped cream and edible underwear.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#74 - 2013-06-05 17:47:31 UTC
it's COSMOS
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#75 - 2013-06-05 17:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Grozen
EvilweaselSA wrote:
it's COSMOS


No its not that but thank you for the contribution, this thread has shed light on many things that were otherwise hidden from the casual player.Thank you everyone who posted.Hour left, just a heads up if you have trading alts now is the time to put one in every region.

knowledge is power.
Vincenzo Arbosa
Locust Assets
#76 - 2013-06-05 18:16:34 UTC
Grozen wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
it's COSMOS


No its not that but thank you for the contribution, this thread has shed light on many things that were otherwise hidden from the casual player.Thank you everyone who posted.Hour left, just a heads up if you have trading alts now is the time to put one in every region.


Oh come on man.. do the right thing and just send messages to the nice guys. No need to pad the pockets of the big timers, especially when 12 billion is probably nothing to them. It would be a great bit more valuable to a newer player (such as myself I might add), and unfortunately I will be at work and unable to get in game for hours after your deadline, likely eating all that pie up.

I looked around and couldn’t find it myself, but I am new to the game and even newer to an industrial focus so I didn’t have high hopes. I had hoped it was tied into reprocessing but didnt see anything there.

No need to feed the trolls. Cut and run, and share with those that could use the wealth. 
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." 
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#77 - 2013-06-05 18:25:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Grozen
Vincenzo Arbosa wrote:
Grozen wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
it's COSMOS


No its not that but thank you for the contribution, this thread has shed light on many things that were otherwise hidden from the casual player.Thank you everyone who posted.Hour left, just a heads up if you have trading alts now is the time to put one in every region.


Oh come on man.. do the right thing and just send messages to the nice guys. No need to pad the pockets of the big timers, especially when 12 billion is probably nothing to them. It would be a great bit more valuable to a newer player (such as myself I might add), and unfortunately I will be at work and unable to get in game for hours after your deadline, likely eating all that pie up.

I looked around and couldn’t find it myself, but I am new to the game and even newer to an industrial focus so I didn’t have high hopes. I had hoped it was tied into reprocessing but didnt see anything there.

No need to feed the trolls. Cut and run, and share with those that could use the wealth.

Hmm I was thinking I can create a mailing list enter the names of those who have posted and are not older than 4years+ and send the tip to them earlier and after a certain amount of time I can release it to everyone else.By all means I'm open to all suggestions as to what will be fair.Trolls will be excluded from list:P

knowledge is power.
Xinlisupreme
HALFAXA
#78 - 2013-06-05 18:29:04 UTC
Very curious indeed. =)
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#79 - 2013-06-05 18:30:08 UTC
Grozen wrote:
Vincenzo Arbosa wrote:
Grozen wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
it's COSMOS


No its not that but thank you for the contribution, this thread has shed light on many things that were otherwise hidden from the casual player.Thank you everyone who posted.Hour left, just a heads up if you have trading alts now is the time to put one in every region.


Oh come on man.. do the right thing and just send messages to the nice guys. No need to pad the pockets of the big timers, especially when 12 billion is probably nothing to them. It would be a great bit more valuable to a newer player (such as myself I might add), and unfortunately I will be at work and unable to get in game for hours after your deadline, likely eating all that pie up.

I looked around and couldn’t find it myself, but I am new to the game and even newer to an industrial focus so I didn’t have high hopes. I had hoped it was tied into reprocessing but didnt see anything there.

No need to feed the trolls. Cut and run, and share with those that could use the wealth.

Hmm I was thinking I can create a mailing list enter the names of those who have posted and are not older than 4years+ and send the tip to them earlier and after a certain amount of time I can release it to everyone else.By all means I'm open to all suggestions as to what will be fair.


You're having a lot of fun with this, and I'm on the edge of my seat to see what it actually is you've gotten everyone so worked up over :D. Good job.

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Lilith Adamah
Gallente Girls
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#80 - 2013-06-05 18:32:32 UTC
Grozen wrote:
Vincenzo Arbosa wrote:
Grozen wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
it's COSMOS


No its not that but thank you for the contribution, this thread has shed light on many things that were otherwise hidden from the casual player.Thank you everyone who posted.Hour left, just a heads up if you have trading alts now is the time to put one in every region.


Oh come on man.. do the right thing and just send messages to the nice guys. No need to pad the pockets of the big timers, especially when 12 billion is probably nothing to them. It would be a great bit more valuable to a newer player (such as myself I might add), and unfortunately I will be at work and unable to get in game for hours after your deadline, likely eating all that pie up.

I looked around and couldn’t find it myself, but I am new to the game and even newer to an industrial focus so I didn’t have high hopes. I had hoped it was tied into reprocessing but didnt see anything there.

No need to feed the trolls. Cut and run, and share with those that could use the wealth.

Hmm I was thinking I can create a mailing list enter the names of those who have posted and are not older than 4years+ and send the tip to them earlier and after a certain amount of time I can release it to everyone else.By all means I'm open to all suggestions as to what will be fair.Trolls will be excluded from list:P

I'm listening...Big smile