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This is unfair. You have cheated me, CCP :(

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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#101 - 2013-06-05 00:36:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Aidan Brooder
I said it earlier in this thread, I'll say it again: FIVE(!) different ways to access the changes of a planned Game Expansion (not just a patch - it is an expansion, if you didn't understand that either...) is more than enough.

CCP provided information about the changes way in advance via:
1. Dev Blog on Forum
2. Link to same Dev Blog with Information in Launcher
3. Another link on your character selection sidebar
4. On the default start page of the INGAME browser
5. Through Newsletter to your RL mailbox

You did choose to ignore that information. Your corp - probably 'relaxed miners' - will all die one day, because you ignored Hulkaggedon.

No other MMO is giving you that many info sources. The usually park them - guess what - in their launchers and on their forums!

Now being the vicious elitist troll like the rest of us that tried for you to see some reason I can only add: Please grow up!
Or take your hoodie and leave, because you will always be "cheated" and disappointed.
Lets face it, hoodies are fancy in some games, especially with mages!

Or finally realize that the mistake was on your side and stop whining. Especially over 24 days that you'll spend learning skills that make those freighters better ships to fly.

You want to be a corp leader? Well, act like a leader! Not like a spoiled child. First thing a leader has to learn is to learn from his own mistakes. And then adjust.

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#102 - 2013-06-05 00:40:20 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Actually, CCP could have sent every active account an Eve Mail with a list of the changes along with an explanation of those changes.

No where does it say when you subscribe to this game that you have to research the internet or be an active member of these forums just to gain important info about the game.



DMC


Well said, my point exactly.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#103 - 2013-06-05 00:43:26 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Actually, CCP could have sent every active account an Eve Mail with a list of the changes along with an explanation of those changes.

No where does it say when you subscribe to this game that you have to research the internet or be an active member of these forums just to gain important info about the game.



DMC


Well said, my point exactly.


You get sarcasm, right ?

FAIL
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#104 - 2013-06-05 00:48:13 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:
I said it earlier in this thread, I'll say it again: FIVE(!) different ways to access the changes of a planned Game Expansion (not just a patch - it is an expansion, if you didn't understand that either...) is more than enough.

CCP provided information about the changes way in advance via:
1. Dev Blog on Forum
2. Link to same Dev Blog with Information in Launcher
3. Another link on your character selection sidebar
4. On the default start page of the INGAME browser
5. Through Newsletter to your RL mailbox


I'll go ahead and reply to this since you and many others are just not getting it.

1. I Dont use the forums
2. When the launcher comes up in log in straight away.
3. On the character sheet I select my one and only character and begin playing straight away, my eyes don't wonder around the window.
4. I dont use the ingame browser.
5. I Don't check my email, I've had no reason to keep up to date with the millions of junk mail sent to me daily.

Where would I check? EVE mail. That's where it should have been sent and that's where I, and many others would have gotten the information. the most OBVIOUS place to send it.

Stop hiding behind your "should've checked here" stories. they're the wrong places. IN game is where it matters.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#105 - 2013-06-05 00:50:06 UTC
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Right ?
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2013-06-05 00:50:08 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Zaryte wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Actually, CCP could have sent every active account an Eve Mail with a list of the changes along with an explanation of those changes.

No where does it say when you subscribe to this game that you have to research the internet or be an active member of these forums just to gain important info about the game.



DMC


Well said, my point exactly.


You get sarcasm, right ?

FAIL


Can't be sarcasm, it's a valid point.
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#107 - 2013-06-05 00:54:43 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
I said it earlier in this thread, I'll say it again: FIVE(!) different ways to access the changes of a planned Game Expansion (not just a patch - it is an expansion, if you didn't understand that either...) is more than enough.

CCP provided information about the changes way in advance via:
1. Dev Blog on Forum
2. Link to same Dev Blog with Information in Launcher
3. Another link on your character selection sidebar
4. On the default start page of the INGAME browser
5. Through Newsletter to your RL mailbox


I'll go ahead and reply to this since you and many others are just not getting it.

1. I Dont use the forums
2. When the launcher comes up in log in straight away.
3. On the character sheet I select my one and only character and begin playing straight away, my eyes don't wonder around the window.
4. I dont use the ingame browser.
5. I Don't check my email, I've had no reason to keep up to date with the millions of junk mail sent to me daily.

Where would I check? EVE mail. That's where it should have been sent and that's where I, and many others would have gotten the information. the most OBVIOUS place to send it.

Stop hiding behind your "should've checked here" stories. they're the wrong places. IN game is where it matters.


Stop hiding behind your ignorance... You are four or so months in EVE. You do not understand what game you play - fine.
You do not realize no other MMO does this - fine.

Do you have the faintest idea of how many mails you get once you actually do start to play EVE?
And EVE Mails are text mails with a limit... How the heck would they put all the very detailed information including many pictures - because you certainly are the type that doesn't like to read long texts?

So, while everybody knows the channels EVE uses, you join the game and of course everything must change just for you.

You are... hopeless. I give up. Get yourself some cookies and a nice glas of warm milk with honey.

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#108 - 2013-06-05 01:07:09 UTC
"Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience"

And with this I take my hat and leave.

And NO, it doe snot make you a winner by default!
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#109 - 2013-06-05 01:07:20 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:


Do you have the faintest idea of how many mails you get once you actually do start to play EVE?
And EVE Mails are text mails with a limit... How the heck would they put all the very detailed information including many pictures - because you certainly are the type that doesn't like to read long texts?


They don't actually have to put the website in the mail, they can just link it there with the necessary information explaining what it's about.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2013-06-05 01:10:05 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Zaryte wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Actually, CCP could have sent every active account an Eve Mail with a list of the changes along with an explanation of those changes.

No where does it say when you subscribe to this game that you have to research the internet or be an active member of these forums just to gain important info about the game.



DMC


Well said, my point exactly.


You get sarcasm, right ?

FAIL


It's not sarcasm, I just posted a statement of fact.

Aidan Brooder seems to think everyone should know that there was 5 different ways to gain knowledge of the changes which he posted =

Quote:
CCP provided information about the changes way in advance via:
1. Dev Blog on Forum
2. Link to same Dev Blog with Information in Launcher
3. Another link on your character selection sidebar
4. On the default start page of the INGAME browser
5. Through Newsletter to your RL mailbox


#1 - Forum use not required to play this game.
#2 - Launcher not user friendly, very small and buggy.
#3 - News section in character selection screen, not reliable and buggy.
#4 - In-Game Browser use not required to play this game, not reliable and buggy.
#5 - Newsletter definitely not reliable and mostly non-existent.


Within my 5 yrs of playing this game I've never received a Newsletter from CCP. Twice I've received a regular Email message to partake in a survey. All other notifications from CCP are automatically created, such as a response to petition or administration warning or notice about subscription expire / renewal.


DMC

EDIT:

CCP sent everyone a notice in-game to vote for the CSM. They can surely do the same for important changes to the game which will affect everyone.

I see a lot of new characters all stroking the same BS, obviously they have either too much time on their hands due to having no real life or simply just don't play the game.

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Jessie Davis
Horlan Logistics and Support
#111 - 2013-06-05 01:10:22 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
I said it earlier in this thread, I'll say it again: FIVE(!) different ways to access the changes of a planned Game Expansion (not just a patch - it is an expansion, if you didn't understand that either...) is more than enough.

CCP provided information about the changes way in advance via:
1. Dev Blog on Forum
2. Link to same Dev Blog with Information in Launcher
3. Another link on your character selection sidebar
4. On the default start page of the INGAME browser
5. Through Newsletter to your RL mailbox


I'll go ahead and reply to this since you and many others are just not getting it.

1. I Dont use the forums
2. When the launcher comes up in log in straight away.
3. On the character sheet I select my one and only character and begin playing straight away, my eyes don't wonder around the window.
4. I dont use the ingame browser.
5. I Don't check my email, I've had no reason to keep up to date with the millions of junk mail sent to me daily.

Where would I check? EVE mail. That's where it should have been sent and that's where I, and many others would have gotten the information. the most OBVIOUS place to send it.

Stop hiding behind your "should've checked here" stories. they're the wrong places. IN game is where it matters.


Such ignorance.
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#112 - 2013-06-05 01:12:32 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:


Do you have the faintest idea of how many mails you get once you actually do start to play EVE?
And EVE Mails are text mails with a limit... How the heck would they put all the very detailed information including many pictures - because you certainly are the type that doesn't like to read long texts?


They don't actually have to put the website in the mail, they can just link it there with the necessary information explaining what it's about.


So they put that link that you ignored five times, three of which ARE ingame... And you ignore it again.
What next? Pidgeons to your basement?

I'm out of this discussion. A lot of people tried to help you. One day you'll remember this discussion, take the hood away from your eyes... And have a hearty laugh about yourself.

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#113 - 2013-06-05 01:19:51 UTC
Andski wrote:
On the bright side, you no longer need a racial industrial 5. Sadly, you never read the devblog


but transport ships are nice!

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#114 - 2013-06-05 01:20:49 UTC
Zaryte wrote:

I'll go ahead and reply to this since you and many others are just not getting it.

1. I Dont use the forums
2. When the launcher comes up in log in straight away.
3. On the character sheet I select my one and only character and begin playing straight away, my eyes don't wonder around the window.
4. I dont use the ingame browser.
5. I Don't check my email, I've had no reason to keep up to date with the millions of junk mail sent to me daily.

Where would I check? EVE mail. That's where it should have been sent and that's where I, and many others would have gotten the information. the most OBVIOUS place to send it.

Stop hiding behind your "should've checked here" stories. they're the wrong places. IN game is where it matters.



Ok, I will bite.

Point 1....you managed to find the forums today to post, and I presume you did some sort of internet search to figure out how that works.

Anyway

the patch notes are 55 (Fifty-five) pages or so long.

Would you have read those in an eve-mail. Would you have read each and every blog if it was copied into an evemail. So far we know it is nothing short of a miracle that you even found out how fit a ship, as that requires the internet.

The odyssey resource rebalancing blog is several pages. Evemail is 8000 characters long. Not 8000 letter or words, 8000 characters including spaces.


I am guessing you are new to gaming, because, in the 8 years I have played WoW (Yes, I am that person), and the years in other MMOs , I have never ever ever recieved an ingame mail telling me about any changes to my class which might affect me in the upcoming patch. "By the way, your class is getting nerfed tomorrow, you might want to start thinking about your respec, by the way, we are introducing pandas"

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#115 - 2013-06-05 01:22:34 UTC
You were warned months ago, and there was no FREE sp givin out to people who did what was suggested.

http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#116 - 2013-06-05 01:24:43 UTC
Jessie Davis wrote:


Such ignorance.


No, I just don't wonder around the internet while playing EVE as much as you do. Sorry about that.

I actually pay more attention to the game it's self. Sue me.
Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#117 - 2013-06-05 01:24:50 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Zaryte wrote:

I'll go ahead and reply to this since you and many others are just not getting it.

1. I Dont use the forums
2. When the launcher comes up in log in straight away.
3. On the character sheet I select my one and only character and begin playing straight away, my eyes don't wonder around the window.
4. I dont use the ingame browser.
5. I Don't check my email, I've had no reason to keep up to date with the millions of junk mail sent to me daily.

Where would I check? EVE mail. That's where it should have been sent and that's where I, and many others would have gotten the information. the most OBVIOUS place to send it.

Stop hiding behind your "should've checked here" stories. they're the wrong places. IN game is where it matters.



Ok, I will bite.

Point 1....you managed to find the forums today to post, and I presume you did some sort of internet search to figure out how that works.

Anyway

the patch notes are 55 (Fifty-five) pages or so long.

Would you have read those in an eve-mail. Would you have read each and every blog if it was copied into an evemail. So far we know it is nothing short of a miracle that you even found out how fit a ship, as that requires the internet.

The odyssey resource rebalancing blog is several pages. Evemail is 8000 characters long. Not 8000 letter or words, 8000 characters including spaces.


I am guessing you are new to gaming, because, in the 8 years I have played WoW (Yes, I am that person), and the years in other MMOs , I have never ever ever recieved an ingame mail telling me about any changes to my class which might affect me in the upcoming patch. "By the way, your class is getting nerfed tomorrow, you might want to start thinking about your respec, by the way, we are introducing pandas"





A hmmm just go away , it's people like you ruining the game, with all the sperg and angst, eve was harmonious till you 12 year olds came here from wow.

http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2013-06-05 01:26:43 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
To summarise:

Started training for a freighter 1 month ago.
less than 24 hours to go until all skills completed.
Odyssey is released.
24 days left for freighter all over again.


24hrs too late.

Have to be able to fly the ship before the new expansion. It can be cooking in the queue with 1 min remaining before downtime, but it was 1 min you still couldn't fly that hull.

It's why they advised people who were cramming to fly Command ships before the new expansion to not only insert the skill, to make sure to level it to 1.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#119 - 2013-06-05 01:26:43 UTC
Capt Tenguru10 wrote:





A hmmm just go away , it's people like you ruining the game, with all the sperg and angst, eve was harmonious till you 12 year olds came here from wow.



But they are going to have walking in Pandas in Eve! Or so I heard....and we can duel now too!

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

Jessie Davis
Horlan Logistics and Support
#120 - 2013-06-05 01:27:01 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Jessie Davis wrote:


Such ignorance.


No, I just don't wonder around the internet while playing EVE as much as you do. Sorry about that.

I actually pay more attention to the game it's self. Sue me.



Attention to game also means attention to things happening to the game? Slapping yourself again and again.