EVE General Discussion

So you come here to whine am i right? Well now you have also learned that you can come here for information or, if you don't like the forums that much, you can just read the dev blogs for information by following the link announced in-game.

CCP provided information about the changes way in advance via:
1. Dev Blog on Forum
2. Link to same Dev Blog with Information in Launcher
3. Another link on your character selection sidebar
4. On the default start page of the INGAME browser
5. Through Newsletter to your RL mailbox

You might think they should spray it across the stars or spam our ingame mailboxes with dev mails.
I disagree. And of the many many MMOs I play and have played, I don't know one that does that. (Perhaps in WOW Pandas come hobbling along and hand you the patch notes? I don't know...)

In addition to that I might add you will not ever enjoy the full scope of EVE if you don't take part in meta-gaming around it.
Something will always hit you by surprise and it will be "unfair"... lets say when your beautiful freighters are hit by Hulkageddon or the next Burn Jita.

Gods know CCP is doing a lot to make it easier and easier for new players...

Now instead of whining learn from this and next time open your eyes and look in the places news are posted in EVE.
For your own sake.

It actually is.

EVE is a game that punishes bad thinking, recklessness, carelessness and irresponsiblity. It's one of the few games that (for the most part) treats it's players like adults. The expecations on aare HIGH.

If you NEED an in-game direct and specific mail regarding information that could affect you, you are (wait for it) simply playing the wrong game. CCP doesn't hand-hold, THAT is what makes it a great game.

Stop failing, take responsibilty from you actions and grow into the game. Or keep whinning, your choice.

Trained Dessie V for some alts, thinking it could be cool to have all 4. Did not pay so much attention to the fine print, and since they had minnie Frigs to III only -> well you know the rest.

In my opinion, I think CCP would have been better off giving un-allocated sp to match that of the other 3 racial dessies.

It would have been a more forgiving scheme for us illiterate / semi-active guys.

Not empty quoting

Bet you won't anymore now will you...

I think i'm starting to get the trend here.

New players = Stupid and should not even try to play the game

Voicing opinions on forums = Attack player at once, regardless of thread's content.

Every single reply so far (except one) has been telling me that I didn't go and look for the information. If this information is so obvious and in my face like you're all saying then why did I not know? Obviously the information was not in a place that is seen by all players, including the new ones such as myself.

The bottom line there would've been not a single player left in the dark if CCP had just sent a mail to everyone It would be in the players face every time they logged in until they actually opened it and read it.

Hiding it on the side of a launcher is not good enough.

Forums are the last place I would go for useful information because it's populated by vicious, elitist, unforgiving trolls who can only offer information on how much of an idiot you are.

YES, I will concede. This could all have been avoided if I had come to the forums and stumbled on the relevant link to the skill training changes. However that just simply shifts the blame off of CCP and on to the new guy that doesn't know what he's doing in this VERY complex game for which it is so infamous for.

You cannot blame the newbie for not branching out to every source out there for tips on how not to get screwed over. This is unacceptable and more blame should be placed on CCP.

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*Shields face from the incoming abuse*

Mail notifications can be turned off so easily missed, and its hard to stumble into some information that has been on every log in screen for months.

Nice troll btw

This thread gave me AIDS, I hope you're happy.

No.

New player = new player.
Voicing opinions = try to figure out what the problem is.

A new player is not the same thing as someone who doesn't look in the most obvious and common place for game information and developer communication, and voicing your opinion is not the same thing as blaming everyone else for mistakes you've made.

It was in a place that is seen by all players. It's just that you, like many others, chose to ignore it and chose not to stay informed.

Good thing that it wasn't hidden, then.

You've got cause and consequence mixed up there. You are getting the impression that the forums are populated by vicious, elitist, and unforgiving trolls because you choose not to go there to stay informed, and as a result miss out on very easy-to-find information that would have solved your issues without minimal effort from your part. The supposed viciousness and lack of forgiveness is a fairly direct result of you trying to shift the blame away from your own mistake and onto others.

Expecting newbies to go to the single self-evident source of game information is not much of a demand. Your problem is not a newbie problem — it's a wilful ignorance problem. The two are not connected (in fact, newbies are often very eager to learn from mistakes, whereas you seem to be thoroughly reluctant to do so). The blame is yours and yours alone, which is only further reinforced by your hyperbole about what the demands on those newbies are. It only shows that you're still not learning. People will often try to make a distinction between newbie and n00b… and you're slowly but surely planting yourself on the wrong side of that distinction.