EVE General Discussion

Then, SURPRISE! You're still at fault for not being more informed on game changes. They made a HUGE deal about everything Odyssey related, up to and including ship skill changes. It's been all over news sites, even Reddit's had an announcement to train Destroyers, Battlecruisers, and Command Ships since the blog release last year.

In your particular circumstance, yes. You're expected to just accept it. Because everyone else was well informed in advance to the change. Ignorance is your own fault in this case.

So, since you cant deny you weren't here and missed it: http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for

And on a side note (having a bad headache, but this thread really soothes my pain, since yours must be so much worse), it is strange, even though some try to run to your aid (in theory, not even being compassionate in your misery), that I see no one else complaining they missed it, not 10 year accounts, not 2 week trials, because they did not or realized they would be the laughing stock of the community by exhibiting their ignorance.

Yet you persist - kind of says all about your intellect and awareness!

And the ones complaining about not being able to fly ships, actually have valid points beyond being ignorant, because they mostly forgot to upgrade their clones and miss points after being podded. And they thank the first replier for pointing it out and admit the missed opportunity and move on, those got like 4 posts total in a thread and are sunk in the void of done conversations.

Yet yours persist - because and not only goons life of the tears of misery

Thank you again for the entertainment.

At this point i'm no longer defending my argument. I'm just defending myself from the constant barrage of personal insults. You're getting to the point where you're just displaying that you enjoy laughing at those of us who were unfortunate enough to miss the information, whether it's our fault or not. You and many others instead need to take a look at yourself and ask "am I any longer a valued member of the EVE community?" The answer is no, it's people like you that make others not come to the forums.

I take all constructive criticism and accept responsibility where i'm wrong. I've conceded to several points made in this thread. But now this is just getting far too personal and I have no respect for those that can only offer "haha, you idiot". That kind of input says more about your own attitude than mine.

I really have to agree with the planning ahead bit. I just started a 21 day trial and will probably sub up once it's finished as well but the gaming community I belong to has been talking about this xpac for well over a month now and I feel as informed as I could have been if I had researched these forums.

You should have asked questions two weeks ago when you found out about the xpac in the first place.

Not trying to be an ******* here, just my two cents.

Flying a freighter without Advanced Spaceship command to 5 is painful and in my opinion it should have been a requirement from the get go. Personally I wouldn't consider getting in one without perfect navigation skills that are relevant to freighters either. You've not really lost anything in my opinion - you've gained a reason to train a critical skill that is relevant to the ship you want to fly. I don't think that it's negative for people to point that out and it isn't a punishment by CCP; it's necessary.

I count at least one post in the thread that was helpful to you. That the rest are just endless variations on "read the forum n00b" doesn't make this a bad thread, all things considered. No, it wasn't all your fault, and now you know to spend time here if you want to avoid further unpleasant surprises.

Don't let the posturing get you down.

Now that hurts. You helped me to achieve something new in Eve and while I don't consider you a friend then at least a helpful fellow pod pilot. And this is what I get.

"Wizard´s First Law" , nothing else can describe it better, also let´s get honest. NO ONE reads these forums except new people wondering to ask something and they usually leave never to return, semi Haley Comet people and the usuals.

Lifetime of most usuals is between 1 year to 4 years, then you get the regulars.

We are a tiny population.

Fact is , CCP could post all over the place they would be closing the shard in a week and people in a week would be wondering why they can´t log in and the login screen gives a 404.

If CCP really wants to share a message with everyone and make sure everyone reads it they should make it POP up like the Downtime window, and then some people would just see a window pop and close it right away ...

People are just like that.

Back in college I worked part time as a security guard at a hospital in a fairly rural area. The Emergency Room (ER) had 2 entrances from the parking lot/circular drive. One entrance had a person sized door and had the words "ENTRANCE" on on the glass, each letter being almost 2 inches high. The other , bigger door said "AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY" (for ambulance crews and firefighters and such) in even bigger letters.

Under that it had an arrow pointing to the right saying "all others use entrance door" or something. Below that the same instruction was re-printed in Spanish. The ambulance crew doors need a code to get in, the regular entrance door opened via motion sensor, you just walk up to it and it opens.

The ER was the only way to get into the rest of the hospital after 9pm when the front doors were closed and locked. Time and time and time and time again I'd watch people walk past the "ENTRANCE" door straight to the door that TELLS them to use the other door. Most would stand there for a while, a few would look around (but not at the writing on the literal wall), a few would even try to pry the ambulance crew door open. I'm not talking about sick people, i talking visitors casually strolling up to go visit sick people in the main hospital.

It's probably why I like EVE, I lost faith in the ability of humans to reason years ago lol

Would rather be a little bit ignorant than become an elitist forum troll who wonders around threads looking to point out flaws in everyone who isn't quite up to your amazing IQ level. You've made your point, move on. Do you need to continue to make these passive insults to get a better feeling of self worth?

If you have nothing constructive to say it's best not to say anything.