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Is it possible to trade items between my own characters?
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Wink Crittenden
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-06-03 19:10:43 UTC
Lets say I have two characters. One is a pirate who does alright but can't dock in HiSec and can't really afford some of the nicer ships. And the other one is a legitimate wealthy businessman who can produce ships at well below market value. Tell me if the following is possible:

My pirate puts in a buy order for a certain ship at 100 ISK (which presumably no other seller will sell at). I then switch to my businessman character, get the ship, take it to the station where my pirate is docked, select the 100 ISK buy order, and sell it to my pirate. In this way, I could use my wealthy and well respected characters to bankroll the nefarious actions of my outlaw character. Is this feasible?
Baggo Hammers
#2 - 2013-06-03 19:12:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Baggo Hammers
Make a corp or a private contract.

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Wink Crittenden
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-06-03 19:16:02 UTC
Can you join multiple corporations?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-06-03 19:58:35 UTC
contracts are the easiest way to transfer between alts on the same account. You must train the contracting skill though and it is not available to trial accounts.

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Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-03 20:06:12 UTC
Wink Crittenden wrote:
select the 100 ISK buy order, and sell it to my pirate.
That doesn't work. Even if you select the 100 ISK buy order, you will still sell to the buy order with the highest ISK offer. (Somewhat surprised that a "wealthy businessman" did not know this.)

The way to go is with private contracts.
The only problem with contracts is that they create some kind of permanent link between the two characters. It might be a problem if you are applying for a corp that requires a full API key.

Another way (which creates no link) is to abandon the ship in a safespot and have the other character board it. That's already a hassle if you have different accounts and gets even more complicated if both are on the same account. (And theoretically someone could scan down and steal the ship while you switch characters. Less likely if you are doing it in a quite system.)

And no, you cannot join multiple corporations at the same time, but it's not required.
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-03 20:08:27 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
You must train the contracting skill though and it is not available to trial accounts.
Nope. You don't need the skill, as a subscriber, you can create one contract, even without the skill. Contracting simply allows more than one.

I do believe you are right about trials though - IIRC they cannot create nor accept any contracts.
Wink Crittenden
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-06-03 20:09:46 UTC
Well if I were a wealthy businessman, I wouldn't be posting in the n00b section of the forums, would I?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-03 21:39:24 UTC
Wink Crittenden wrote:
Well if I were a wealthy businessman, I wouldn't be posting in the n00b section of the forums, would I?


If you were a wealthy businessman...you wouldn't be a noob.

But just contract them over. Not that hard, only cost you 10k a contract.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#9 - 2013-06-03 22:55:04 UTC
Wink Crittenden wrote:
Can you join multiple corporations?


You can only be a member off one corp at the time, but you can leave and join as you please. Keep in mind that the corp history follows you and is public.

So as others have said, set up a contract between your characters or just meet up in the same station and do a direct trade between them.

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Oraac Ensor
#10 - 2013-06-04 00:32:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Oraac Ensor
You don't say whether your characters are on the same account or two separate accounts.

However, the fact that you say "switch to" your other character suggests that they are on the same account. In that situation you have three alternatives:

1. Contracts
2. Send money from wealthy character to pauper to buy his own stuff
3. Eject at a safe spot and board with the other character (but keep in mind that a repackaged frigate will fit into a GSC anchored in a suitable place as a safer option) - as said above there is a danger that your ship could be found and boarded by another player, I got myself a nice cruiser like that once.

If your characters are on separate accounts you can dock them in the same station and use the station trade window (both characters must be logged in).

[Edit] One caveat here: only use the trade window between your own characters, don't trade there with anyone else unless you are very, very, VERY sure you can trust them.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#11 - 2013-06-04 05:21:14 UTC
If on one account and unable to contract due to being a trial, move both characters to a quiet lowsec system with at least one station (Ravarin is one option although that's not connected to the rest of lowsec).

Then make a safe spot 'straight up' from the station, at 1000km or more from the station. (Use an oversized MWD fitted Stabber if you can fly that, or some other fast ship with an MWD). Repeat at the same distance on the other character.

Now just swap characters and fly the ship you want to trade to the safespot, eject, dock, and log over to the other character.


Bingo, no paper trail.

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Paul Panala
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#12 - 2013-06-04 13:41:46 UTC
The way you trade with anyone, who for whatever reason cannot be logged in and docked at the same station at the same time as you, is with a contract. I am not sure why everyone is making this question so complicated. Contract, that is how you do it.
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-06-04 13:55:52 UTC
Paul Panala wrote:
The way you trade with anyone, who for whatever reason cannot be logged in and docked at the same station at the same time as you, is with a contract. I am not sure why everyone is making this question so complicated. Contract, that is how you do it.


That's the way to do it, assuming you don't mind leaving a paper trail visible in your API. The more complicated answers are for the possible case in which the OP wants his industrialist to have clean hands, or at least plausible deniability.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2013-06-04 23:45:53 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
Paul Panala wrote:
The way you trade with anyone, who for whatever reason cannot be logged in and docked at the same station at the same time as you, is with a contract. I am not sure why everyone is making this question so complicated. Contract, that is how you do it.


That's the way to do it, assuming you don't mind leaving a paper trail visible in your API. The more complicated answers are for the possible case in which the OP wants his industrialist to have clean hands, or at least plausible deniability.



This is absolutely key.

Some corps thoroughly vet applicants looking for secret alts.

If your goal is to join one of these corps, meet new people, blow them up and steal everything not nailed down, you need to keep your alts secret.

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