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Cruise Golem viable with Odyssey?
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#21 - 2013-06-04 22:00:18 UTC
I flew my golem a bit with a torp fit (and implants) just swapping for cruise. 3 rf tps and fury cruise were instapopping frigs (2 shotting elites). 15km/s cruise are well... interesting, no counting volleys inside of like 70km! My CNR has t1 rigors, and I didn't have any sentries (or drone damage amps) in station.

both seem pretty strong, but I'm not 100% how good. I haven't run those missions in years. Nightmare and paladin both got a bit better this patch I think with reduced tachyon cap and pg, although nightmare got a minor ding with the TE nerf (maybe swap the TE for a DC and drop a hardener for another tc?). and I haven't gotten into my Mach yet which lost a bit of falloff.

Typhoon Fleet Issue is the other ship I want to try out but don't really have a suitable character, had I realized the changes I probably would have put minny bs 5 in the queue a little sooner. ah well soon enough.

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Rexxorr
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-06-04 23:44:25 UTC
Roseline Penshar wrote:
Rexxorr wrote:
Played around with a cruise SNI, CNR, Typhoon and Golem on sisi. Mainly I solo mission run.

My impression is that Golem > greater than all for my use.



1. Best damage application, this really shows up when hitting cruisers and frigs.

7. I use salvage drones during combat and rarely use light combat drones or sentries. really speeds up the looting/salvaging (Golem still kills the frigs at an acceptable rate).




The buff to cruise missiles really gives the Golem a huge boost pve wise, and obsoletes torps in my view. The only mission where I can see torps being useful is damsel. PvE cruise Golem > than all other cruise ships imo.



2 question, is typhoon damage application 2nd best compare to golem? is it still viable for typhoon to kill frigs at an acceptable rate?



For just all out killing and not worrying about loot/salvage, the Typhoon fleet issue may be the best depending on situation, it can deploy a full set of sentries which gives it a good dps boost. All the cruise ships can kill frigs just fine, TPs help out with the small ships, Its just the Golem is better at killing the small stuff.
Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-06-05 00:44:37 UTC
ah i mean standard T1 typhoon in term of damage application what do you think the rank? compare to other cruise ships
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#24 - 2013-06-05 00:49:33 UTC
Roseline Penshar wrote:
ah i mean standard T1 typhoon in term of damage application what do you think the rank? compare to other cruise ships


I rather like the T1 Typhoon's damage due to the strength of the damage application bonus and the ROF bonus. There's a sweet spot with cruisers and battlecruisers where you can potentially race ahead of the competition. Also, the bigger drone bay is nice. However, you're pretty well stuck with a 2 painter/4 bcu shield setup or a 3 painter/3 bcu armor setup. Ideally you'd see a 3 painter 4 bcu armor setup but that's kinda hard. :)

-Liang

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Blood-And-Sand Taranogas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-06-11 14:20:07 UTC
Cruise Golem post Odyssey is indeed a beast. With only 2xTP you can apply between 80% and 100% damage even to cruisers, not to mention BS and above. I personally fit my cruise Golem with 2xFlare and shoot only faction missiles. I don't know why you keep on rigging this beauty with rigors considerind the TP boost that this hull has.
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#26 - 2013-06-11 14:54:23 UTC
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Cruise Golem post Odyssey is indeed a beast. With only 2xTP you can apply between 80% and 100% damage even to cruisers, not to mention BS and above. I personally fit my cruise Golem with 2xFlare and shoot only faction missiles. I don't know why you keep on rigging this beauty with rigors considerind the TP boost that this hull has.


Because the missile damage algorithm is weird and favors rigors even if the target is bigger than your explosion radius.
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