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Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
#21 - 2013-06-01 23:32:08 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Wouldn't Earth be far, far more advanced than even the Jove? IIRC EVE takes place after a complete technological collapse and reconstruction, millenia after the eve gate thing. I'm pretty sure you'd know immediately if a wormhole took you back to Sol.


Not necessarily. There are some theories out there that once intelligent life reaches a certain point it declines and eventually goes extinct. The reason why we can't seem to find any out there isn't because there is none - it's because intelligent societies likely snuff themselves out. Humans - well, Homo sapien sapiens, us - have only been around for a mere 200,000 years or so. The question is how long do societies such as ours last?

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Adunh Slavy
#22 - 2013-06-01 23:44:46 UTC
If people of Earth were so eager to fly into some unknown worm hole by the thousands, then it is also more than reasonable to assume they also went a number of easier to reach destinations before and after any wars.

Chances are the "earth" galaxy/verse/whatever is far more advanced than New Eden.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2013-06-01 23:45:16 UTC
floating in space wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Earth is probably an uninhabitable rock swirling with a poisonous cloud of CO2 and other hothouse gasses, like Venus.

Probably why humanity was so eager to use the EVE gate in the first place.


We have artificial gravity in stations, I think they could deal with greenhouse gases.


The point is, there would be nobody on Earth, so why bother with a hot rock ?

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floating in space
#24 - 2013-06-01 23:50:19 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
floating in space wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Earth is probably an uninhabitable rock swirling with a poisonous cloud of CO2 and other hothouse gasses, like Venus.

Probably why humanity was so eager to use the EVE gate in the first place.


We have artificial gravity in stations, I think they could deal with greenhouse gases.


The point is, there would be nobody on Earth, so why bother with a hot rock ?


If people left because of global warming then yes there would hardly be a point.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#25 - 2013-06-01 23:53:53 UTC
floating in space wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Earth is probably an uninhabitable rock swirling with a poisonous cloud of CO2 and other hothouse gasses, like Venus.

Probably why humanity was so eager to use the EVE gate in the first place.


We have artificial gravity in stations, I think they could deal with greenhouse gases.


This would imply that tech development in New Eden paralleled Earths development. Which may not have been the case.

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floating in space
#26 - 2013-06-02 00:00:23 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
floating in space wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Earth is probably an uninhabitable rock swirling with a poisonous cloud of CO2 and other hothouse gasses, like Venus.

Probably why humanity was so eager to use the EVE gate in the first place.


We have artificial gravity in stations, I think they could deal with greenhouse gases.


This would imply that tech development in New Eden paralleled Earths development. Which may not have been the case.


Dealing with greenhouse gases isn't especially hard in comparison with generating gravity.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#27 - 2013-06-02 00:04:45 UTC
The answer is no and there is a lore-scientific reason for it. See project Atlas.
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2013-06-02 00:56:23 UTC
mattstorms360 wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:

Thats how I see Earth being. Probably not extinct but pushed back due to destroying themselves and having to rebuild. Also the weapon was a Jovian ship not Earth based, if I'm thinking of the same thing.


So the Amarr would enslave the people of Earth if the gate did reopen.


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Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-06-02 01:01:43 UTC
Eve gate closed, thread now closed.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#30 - 2013-06-02 03:04:00 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We can all agree it would be a bad thing to happen.



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CCP Falcon
#31 - 2013-06-02 04:17:05 UTC
Also, just FYI, the EVE Gate didn't link New Eden with Sol.

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Melissa Turner
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-06-02 04:19:43 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Also, just FYI, the EVE Gate didn't link New Eden with Sol.

Blink





can anyone pass me a link to read up on all this lore cause now im completely thrown off.
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#33 - 2013-06-02 04:22:33 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Earth is probably an uninhabitable rock swirling with a poisonous cloud of CO2 and other hothouse gasses, like Venus.

Probably why humanity was so eager to use the EVE gate in the first place.


Given the catastrophic result of the EVE collapse (colonies wiped out, entire empires losing contact with one another), I'd feel confident in saying that Terra and her off-world colonies suffered a similar fate to New Eden.

Whether they fared as well as New Eden in the interim is impossible to judge.

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Minmat Sebtin
House of Sebtin
#34 - 2013-06-02 04:30:53 UTC
Melissa Turner wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Also, just FYI, the EVE Gate didn't link New Eden with Sol.

Blink





can anyone pass me a link to read up on all this lore cause now im completely thrown off.


The old eve intro

It is implied that humanity expanded throughout the galaxy, or at least as far as they could with stargates. Then humanity turned on each other until the discovery of the eve wormhole. I think it is safe to assume that those back in the milky way resumed fighting for what was left.

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Nephilims Eyes
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#35 - 2013-06-02 04:33:03 UTC
Astrid Stjerna wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Earth is probably an uninhabitable rock swirling with a poisonous cloud of CO2 and other hothouse gasses, like Venus.

Probably why humanity was so eager to use the EVE gate in the first place.


Given the catastrophic result of the EVE collapse (colonies wiped out, entire empires losing contact with one another), I'd feel confident in saying that Terra and her off-world colonies suffered a similar fate to New Eden.

Whether they fared as well as New Eden in the interim is impossible to judge.



Well if I remember the story right (and it has been nearly 10 years since I read it). The collapse on New Edens side was due to the loss of resources and infrastructure the original planets provided. Without it, the planets were incapable of supporting themselves and declined. So I see no reason as to why the same would have happened on the Sol side if they were the source of everything, that means they had everything and offloaded a good amount of population clogging down the system before the gate collapse.
Maoye Simalia
Ecstasy Of Gold Corp
#36 - 2013-06-02 04:45:45 UTC
No, I don't want to do PI on Earth. The aborigine is primitive and violent race and their planet is heavily polluted.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-06-02 04:53:03 UTC
Melissa Turner wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Also, just FYI, the EVE Gate didn't link New Eden with Sol.

Blink





can anyone pass me a link to read up on all this lore cause now im completely thrown off.

The lore states that they "found" the EVE wormhole. So it is very likely to be a the extreme edge of nowhere.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#38 - 2013-06-02 04:59:45 UTC
EvE Online already has too much systems...

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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#39 - 2013-06-02 05:17:04 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Wouldn't Earth be far, far more advanced than even the Jove? IIRC EVE takes place after a complete technological collapse and reconstruction, millenia after the eve gate thing. I'm pretty sure you'd know immediately if a wormhole took you back to Sol.

Yes it would. According to the lore it has been about 20,000 years since the EVE gate collapse.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Timeline


That assumes the effects of EVE Gate collapsing did not effect the Earth side in a similar fashion. We only know what happened to this side after the collapse. We know nothing about what happened on the other side. Blink

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2013-06-02 05:20:32 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Wouldn't Earth be far, far more advanced than even the Jove? IIRC EVE takes place after a complete technological collapse and reconstruction, millenia after the eve gate thing. I'm pretty sure you'd know immediately if a wormhole took you back to Sol.


Not necessarily. There are some theories out there that once intelligent life reaches a certain point it declines and eventually goes extinct. The reason why we can't seem to find any out there isn't because there is none - it's because intelligent societies likely snuff themselves out. Humans - well, Homo sapien sapiens, us - have only been around for a mere 200,000 years or so. The question is how long do societies such as ours last?

A companion theory is also, that any race intelligent enough to NOT off itself in some galactic-level self-genocide, then they would most likely also be smart enough to realize 99% of the toehr raes out there WOULD off tehmselves (but be more likely to band together to off any races "different" first) intelligent life being as self-destructive as it is.