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About the Eos' model

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#81 - 2013-06-01 22:44:01 UTC
Hashi Lebwohl wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:


That would (potentially) mean:

  • Eos would use the Myrm hull
  • Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
  • Abso would use the Harb hull
  • Nighthawk would use the Drake hull



  • Shouldn't that read Astarte would use the Myrm hull if you are following the same logic. Field command ships get the tier 2 BC hull -Fleet command ships get the tier 1 BC hull.


    There aren't tiers anymore though, so we are free from those sorts of rules. Moreover, Fleet and Field command are being merged to just be "Command". There's a devblog about that one.
    Lucas Quaan
    New Order Outreach Division
    CODE.
    #82 - 2013-06-01 22:44:33 UTC
    Destoya wrote:
    Alvatore DiMarco wrote:

    I'm fairly sure the Hurricane is more iconic.


    The alliance tournament community would like to respectfully disagree

    I'm afraid the vast majority of EVE has a different relation to the hulls in this case.
    Subsparx
    Crimson Serpent Syndicate
    #83 - 2013-06-01 22:47:47 UTC
    My two favorite hulls in the game are the Ferox and the Myrmidon, Myrmidon above the Ferox by a large margin. It'd be sad to see the Nighthawk be turned into a Drake (though I'm sure it would look amazing indeed), but I have ALWAYS wanted an Eos color scheme Myrmidon. This has my support 100%. I would probably exclusively fly the Eos if this happened.

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    Beaver Retriever
    Reality Sequence
    #84 - 2013-06-01 22:52:39 UTC
    CCP Fozzie wrote:
    This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.

    I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.

    It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.

    That would (potentially) mean:

  • Eos would use the Myrm hull
  • Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
  • Abso would use the Harb hull
  • Nighthawk would use the Drake hull

  • This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.

    So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?

    I have posted about this before, in a different thread relating to this.. my opinion is still **** yes.

    It would make more use of the rather cool-looking tier 2 battlecruiser hulls, and ships like the Sleipnir and Absolution really could do with looking as badass as they are rather than a brick and a tub respectively.
    Gilbaron
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #85 - 2013-06-01 23:07:29 UTC
    yes please
    Jonas Sukarala
    Deep Core Mining Inc.
    Caldari State
    #86 - 2013-06-01 23:38:57 UTC
    Subsparx wrote:
    My two favorite hulls in the game are the Ferox and the Myrmidon, Myrmidon above the Ferox by a large margin. It'd be sad to see the Nighthawk be turned into a Drake (though I'm sure it would look amazing indeed), but I have ALWAYS wanted an Eos color scheme Myrmidon. This has my support 100%. I would probably exclusively fly the Eos if this happened.


    Ferox is my favourite hull too its a shame that the drake is still better in every possible way from tank to dps and range.

    I love the new Navy Apoc though.

    'Tech3 ships need to be put down, like a rabid dog drooling everywhere in the house, they are out of line' CCP Ytterbium Nerf missile range into place where is the TD missile change?  ..projectiles should use capacitor. ABC's should be T2 HABC and nerf web strength its still too high

    Faustus Kraemar
    Blackbase Incorporated
    #87 - 2013-06-01 23:46:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Faustus Kraemar
    This alternate Command Ship hulls idea sounds awesome. Tech 2 Myrmidon and Harby in CC colours? A thousand times yes. Even though the Myrmidon is clearly disgusting and heretical, etc. >_>
    Rhavas
    Noble Sentiments
    Second Empire.
    #88 - 2013-06-01 23:47:26 UTC
    Love the idea Fozzie. Doooooo it.

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    Sugar Kyle
    Middle Ground
    #89 - 2013-06-01 23:48:54 UTC
    This would be delightful and I am a Sleipnir pilot.

    Member of CSM9 and CSM10.

    Drew Solaert
    Aliastra
    Gallente Federation
    #90 - 2013-06-01 23:55:05 UTC
    The Eos as a Myrm hull would be glorious. That sexy blue colour is screaming out for that hull tbfh

    I lied :o

    Divi Filus
    New Xenocracy
    #91 - 2013-06-01 23:57:24 UTC
    I am absolutely in favor of this. Kaalakiota Drake...yes, please.
    Lenier Chenal
    Offensive Upholder
    #92 - 2013-06-02 00:02:45 UTC
    CCP Fozzie wrote:
    This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.

    I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.

    It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.

    That would (potentially) mean:

  • Eos would use the Myrm hull
  • Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
  • Abso would use the Harb hull
  • Nighthawk would use the Drake hull

  • This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.

    So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?


    Make it so.
    Kenrailae
    Vanishing Point.
    The Initiative.
    #93 - 2013-06-02 00:03:47 UTC
    Love it! Do eeet naowwww!!! You still have time to recode it before Odyssey! :D




    Yay Fozzie!


    The Law is a point of View

    The NPE IS a big deal

    HazeInADaze
    Safari Hunt Club
    #94 - 2013-06-02 00:06:04 UTC
    The Myrm Hull is just too good to be used only once.
    BadAssMcKill
    Aliastra
    #95 - 2013-06-02 00:12:40 UTC
    YESYESYESYESYES
    Kel hound
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #96 - 2013-06-02 00:13:18 UTC
    CCP Fozzie wrote:
    Cards on the table, the Sleipnir is the ship I have the greatest emotional attachment to of any ship in EVE. It would look great as a Hurricane, but it would also look DIFFERENT and that makes me feel confused feelings deep inside my heart.

    I also don't think this kind of change would be worthwhile unless we did all four and converted them into those specific hulls, since any deviation would make it harder for a new player trying to get information from their looks.

    So it's kinda an all or nothing deal, which is what makes it such a difficult question.



    If its all or nothing then watch me push all my chips to the center cuz I'm all in.
    Alvatore DiMarco
    Capricious Endeavours Ltd
    #97 - 2013-06-02 00:14:59 UTC
    Decided I'd post this up. If the Claymore became a Hurricane hull instead of the Sleipnir, it would probably look close to this.

    http://i.imgur.com/gVfxxNZ.jpg

    You can imagine the missile hardpoints for yourself.
    Gnoshia
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #98 - 2013-06-02 00:23:22 UTC
    YES
    Six Strangelove
    Quam Singulari
    #99 - 2013-06-02 00:25:32 UTC
    To quote someone from another forum:

    All the assault ships follow the 'one hull per race' rule
    All the recon ships follow the 'one hull per race' rule
    All the interceptors follow the 'one hull per race' rule


    Admittedly the HACs don't, so let's just ignore them for the sake of the argument. Roll

    To me the Sleipnir and Absolution are iconic, their hulls part of their personality. I know this theoretical new Sleipnicane and Absobinger would probably have the same stats and be flown the same way, but if things are just being done for appearance's sake, I'd just soon enough be keeping the old appearances.

    Also the Prophecy hull looks a lot better than the Harb's.
    Alvatore DiMarco
    Capricious Endeavours Ltd
    #100 - 2013-06-02 00:33:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
    Six Strangelove wrote:
    To quote someone from another forum:

    All the assault ships follow the 'one hull per race' rule
    All the recon ships follow the 'one hull per race' rule
    All the interceptors follow the 'one hull per race' rule


    Admittedly the HACs don't, so let's just ignore them for the sake of the argument. Roll

    To me the Sleipnir and Absolution are iconic, their hulls part of their personality. I know this theoretical new Sleipnicane and Absobinger would probably have the same stats and be flown the same way, but if things are just being done for appearance's sake, I'd just soon enough be keeping the old appearances.

    Also the Prophecy hull looks a lot better than the Harb's.


    To be fair, the Interceptors are based on the race's "Go-fast" hull, of which each race only has one. If a second go-fast hull were added, it's entirely possible one of the existing interceptors would use it.

    Assault ships are based on each race's "Kick everything's ass" hull. There may be multiple of these so it's something that could be considered and debated and such.

    Recon Ships use the only cruiser hull that's not already some other T2 ship. If more cruiser hulls were added, it could be said "Make the new hull replace one of the recon hulls".

    Part of why this is such a viable idea is because the Battlecruisers split weapon types between them on the T1 level as well as on the T2 level, but only use one of the two available hulls (we're ignoring ABCs for this). As a result, there's more than enough room for this kind of change and it only seems completely logical.