Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I have a great attachment to the Sleipnir in its current form, and I believe the same holds true for most people flying the Sleipnir.

As I have understood it so far, the current state of the discussion is, that for the most part the amarr and caldari do not really care that much about the models, whereas the gallente would like a myrmidon hull, especially as the myrm hull was overlooked for the navy battlecruiser, and the Minmatar are largely against the Hurricane model for the Sleipnir.

Therefore I believe that the need for change is not big enough to warrant it if 25% of the people say "yes" 50% "meh" and 25% "no".

I've repeated myself a lot on this, but I suppose now that we're up to 20 pages it's reasonable.

All the Command Ships are getting touched and remodeled a bit, whether this hull change happens or not. Just like the Marauders are all getting unique skins based loosely on their T1 versions, the Command Ships will be getting changed from their current appearance as well. This much is guaranteed no matter what. If you're confused, go look at the Tempest and then look at the Vargur. Switch back and forth between the Megathron and Kronos previews a few times; you'll see a number of differences between them and I don't just mean the color.

So yes, they'd be more than just "simple reskins".




I have been watching this thread very closely, as you can probably tell if you manage to read all 20 pages. I assure you that less than 50% are saying "meh". It's closer to 70-80% showing definite support, 20-25% not wanting it done and the rest either saying they have no particular opposition so go ahead or not caring about the ships they don't fly as long as the ship they do fly gets changed. That being said, it's not unreasonable for someone to not really care about a ship they don't ever fly.

Also, you're wrongly characterizing the replies. 90% or more of the posts in here are very strongly opinionated about the hull flown by that particular pilot. Amarr feel very strongly that a Harby Absolution needs to happen, or they feel strongly that their laserchicken not be changed. Caldari pilots get fairly rabid about black-and-red Drakes, be it in support or in opposition. I worry that the Gallente pilots might start tipping over cars and breaking windows in their vehement support for an Eos Myrm.

To be honest, it seems as though the least passionate group has in fact been the Minmatar pilots. They're very obviously and decidedly either for or against changing the Sleipnir but most of them don't seem as worked up over their opinions as the other groups.

Going to generally agree with you however I'd like see the EOS model swapped to the myrmidon. Gallente did get another Brutix hull so it only seems fair.I also would like to see minor/moderate variations in all t2 hulls. This would be something as simple as the moving parts on the eos ect.

Some variation in models to differentiate them from other ships with like hulls is imo, mandatory at this point.

The English language lacks the adjectives to properly describe how much I approve of this idea.

a red and gold harby=drool

i have all 8 command ships. it wouldnt bother me what u did as long as they were bumped up as u guys said.

i would support a laser chicken, but with the patch change, isnt the chicken a drone/ham boat? so to me, a ham chicken and a laser harby would follow through with the changes nicely.

now, the brutix is so over used it wouldnt phase me to the myrm the drone boat and use a thorax for the astarte. its just that over used.

the drake? yeah that SCREAMS nighthawk.

but the cane...the cane screams mwd and autocannons. what better ship for that but the sleipnir? now, a missile spewing cane as mentioned might be interesting, but if one applies their brain, the only logical conclusion without personal bias would be a cane filling the role of the sleipnir.

color schemes? a red and black harby?=drool.
(did i mention that?)

the nighthawk color scheme needs ALOT of work. its bland.

the cane? hmmm...open for suggestions.

the thorax/astarte would just use the same astarte colors. (iknow we cant use the thorax, i just wanted to make a point about the brutix hull. when someone says "here comes a gallente ship, we all ask what brutix variarion?)

DOOOOO EEEEETTT!!!!!!

I am for this only if you can conform that the bonuses, cpu, pg, and all other area of the command ships will not change do to you change the hull shape?


if that is the case please change them they should look different from one each other.

Yes to all but the Eos. I like the Brutix hull too much and the Astarte does not have roles/bonuses I need. Make the Astarte a Myrmidon. :-P

Disagree, Assault Frigs are all using the same model, so do Interceptors. Just because it is like that doesn't necessarily mean that it makes any kind of sense. Artists have been lazy once, that alone doesn't mean that all t2 ships need to be originating from the same hull.

It has been nice for the last time, and we got used to all those hulls. However there are always some visionaries that reach for the possibilities of design. People were screaming about the vagabond revamp, and in the end got away really lucky. Oh ya, why are assault cruisers using different hulls and CS don't? Maybe cause tier 2 battlecruisers plainly haven't been around at the time CS got introduced. Time to FIX that.

"It's always been like that, don't change it! Only change stuff I don't like" - is an outdated conservative position.

Given the chances of the new hulls and the fact that an eve player's memory only catches the last two weeks (regarding changes), all that could happen would be more optical diversity.

Also:
This is exactly what field command ships are atm... And if you rule out the abso/astarte/sleipnir from being oversized HACs you surely categorize things strangely. (never flew a nighthawk)

I like them as they are. They are all using the BC models that look beefier, which works well for a T2 BC. I think the "tier 3" BCs would work better than the "tier 2" BCs as new command ship hulls, visually. But I still prefer the "tier 1" hulls to continue to be used. For both command ships. Its ok that both command ships per race us the same hull because... they're both command ships.