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T2 BPO nerf incoming?
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Haulie Berry
#81 - 2013-06-26 00:40:38 UTC
^ Congratulations, guy, for necroing a thread just to steal the title of Dumbest Post To Date in one fell swoop.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#82 - 2013-06-26 00:44:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Amathius M wrote:
T2BPOs were OBVIOUS tools for dev's to give to thier pet corps for an advantage, BOB anyone?. Prob alot more than that going on imo . ( I mean lets get real here - "Limited edition items , handed out in a "lottery" .... but also in backdoor to buddies? .... sure!)

The thing is its a KNOWN fact that these BPOs were handed out like candy to friends etc. of the games actual staff - Herp derp. Done deal. CLEARLY an "Unfair" advantage meant for exactly* that - but also entirely their initiative , the games staff is completely entitled to doing stuff like that , theres also a big reason why EVE is such a Niche game - its small time - for a reason* .. though thats another thread entirely.

Brewlar? Brewlar Kuvakei? Is that you?

I hid his posts (click on the orange triangle next to the avatar name) so long ago. Another alt to add.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#83 - 2013-06-26 00:56:21 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:

Brewlar? Brewlar Kuvakei? Is that you?

I hid his posts (click on the orange triangle next to the avatar name) so long ago. Another alt to add.


Doesn't taste like quite the right flavor of bitter for Brewlar.

Still idiotic.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#84 - 2013-06-26 08:02:42 UTC
What they should be doing , it to gradually, and incrementally buy up BPOs secretly from players using seized isk from banned accounts (wink wink.. thats not printing isk like they print it for bounties.. thats using isk from the ilegal farm smugglers).


They'd need to be careful not to run up prices or look like they were favoring one player or another. There are "going prices" and I don't see any reason that they couldn't use some discipline not to pay within a 10% deviation (plus or minus) of what they've seen similar trade hands for.

If they retire 1% of the outstanding BPOs each month they start putting a real dent in what is out there after a couple years. Some people will go inactive in the game with them in their accounts too. figuring they're as good a wealth preservation tool as plex or characters etc (isk is worth less each year you're inactive relative to the isk/hour earnings rise over time)

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Sabre Rolf
Doomheim
#85 - 2013-06-26 11:55:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabre Rolf
Amathius M wrote:


The thing is its a KNOWN fact that these BPOs were handed out like candy to friends etc.


the good thing on facts is that they are easily to proof. Do you have any evidence for any remaining T2 BPO that got brought into the game the illegaly?


and no, he has not reached brewlars level of aggresive ignorance (yet)
Haulie Berry
#86 - 2013-06-26 14:54:39 UTC
Quote:
What they should be doing , it to gradually, and incrementally buy up BPOs secretly from players using seized isk from banned accounts (wink wink.. thats not printing isk like they print it for bounties.. thats using isk from the ilegal farm smugglers).


Yeah, I mentioned that possibility earlier in the thread as probably the only feasible thing they could do about them, IF they wanted to do something about them. That IF is important. It's still basically a solution looking for a problem (by which I mean, "an actual gameplay problem" not, "some bad-at-math nooblet thinks the game needs to be adjusted to salve his butthurt").
Anna Djan
Banana Corp
#87 - 2013-06-26 15:55:44 UTC
I have an idea. Organise a group who sits outside jita 24/7 and pop whoever you see with a T2 BPO

That'll get them ! \o/
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#88 - 2013-06-26 18:17:35 UTC
How many unit of trit do I have to sell for people to start rumor about a future change to it?
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#89 - 2013-06-26 20:18:59 UTC
CCP will compensate the removal... not sure why you think they wouldn't/
Sabre Rolf
Doomheim
#90 - 2013-06-26 20:53:20 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
CCP will compensate the removal... not sure why you think they wouldn't/


not sure why you think that there will ever be a removalRoll
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2013-06-27 03:10:09 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
see a lot of T2 BPOs sold on forum and wonder if the owners got some leaked information about a possible nerf.
Anything?

I personally think its long overdue.



The increased rate of decrypter drops have increased the profitability of invention T2 BPC's while not adding additional value you manufacturing with T2 BPO's.

No nerf here, but the ability for T2 BPO manufacturers to sell items at a price that is unprofitable though invention as well as decreasing the gap in the profitability of T2 BPO's over invention has been decreased enough for people who own these blueprints to want and try to sell them off before their decreased value becomes known.
Sabre Rolf
Doomheim
#92 - 2013-06-27 07:26:27 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:


but the ability for T2 BPO manufacturers to sell items at a price that is unprofitable though invention as well as decreasing the gap in the profitability of T2 BPO's over invention has been decreased enough for people who own these blueprints to want and try to sell them off before their decreased value becomes known.


max ME is still -1, no change there. If there was no profit to make before the patch, there won't profit for the Inventor today either( in most cases at least).

The biggest buff for invention wasn`t actually the decryptor change itself, but the new hacking site that is actually fun to run now.
Niikumi Miyu
Black Salmon
#93 - 2013-06-27 12:44:47 UTC
I think this thread is some kind of experiment to see if haulie can reach some sort of singularity of projecting.




And also being a douche.
Haulie Berry
#94 - 2013-06-27 14:34:15 UTC
Niikumi Miyu wrote:
I think this thread is some kind of experiment to see if haulie can reach some sort of singularity of projecting.




And also being a douche.



I'll try being nicer when the rest of you try being smarter.
Ginger Barbarella
#95 - 2013-06-27 17:27:24 UTC
Niikumi Miyu wrote:
I think this thread is some kind of experiment to see if haulie can reach some sort of singularity of projecting.

And also being a douche.


She (he) is already on my extremely short list of blocked Forum posters, include Brewlar Whathisname and James432423423719283735687268273.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Sabre Rolf
Doomheim
#96 - 2013-06-27 19:46:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabre Rolf
Ginger Barbarella wrote:

Hello, I want to inform everyone who is on my Block-List cause that matters to this topic



cool story AND valuable post. still blocked now, tho
Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
#97 - 2013-06-27 23:32:14 UTC
The whole ROI thing over 10 years overlooks that T2 BPOs tend to be worth more as time goes on. Those who acquired early exhumer BPOs don't even have to make/copy anything and they can sell their BPOs for hundred times more than they paid.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#98 - 2013-06-28 01:30:21 UTC
Sabre Rolf wrote:
Styth spiting wrote:


but the ability for T2 BPO manufacturers to sell items at a price that is unprofitable though invention as well as decreasing the gap in the profitability of T2 BPO's over invention has been decreased enough for people who own these blueprints to want and try to sell them off before their decreased value becomes known.


max ME is still -1, no change there. If there was no profit to make before the patch, there won't profit for the Inventor today either( in most cases at least).

The biggest buff for invention wasn`t actually the decryptor change itself, but the new hacking site that is actually fun to run now.


If it costs less to make one run of a -1 BPC, that's a buff.

If it cost less to make any given ME of BPC, that's a buff for items where that's the most profitable decryptor to use.


And, finally, a buff to invention doesn't have to make any specific item more profitable to produce. An across the board +1 PE would be a buff to invention, so would any number of UI improvements, because inventors are not tied to any specific item.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Sabre Rolf
Doomheim
#99 - 2013-06-28 07:34:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabre Rolf
RubyPorto wrote:


If it costs less to make one run of a -1 BPC, that's a buff.

If it cost less to make any given ME of BPC, that's a buff for items where that's the most profitable decryptor to use.


~context~

I didn`t say anything else. I was just pointing out that the hard limit where a Inventor can make profit didn`t change much (only by the decreased decryptor price itself maybe)



@Kirkwood Ross
your on a different construction site now, T2 BPO´s are also collector-Items you know
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#100 - 2013-06-28 14:53:22 UTC
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