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The old Stuff back - including improvements

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#61 - 2012-02-07 15:37:24 UTC
why not, my idea is not to remove the new ones, it is to make an option in general settings called "use old weapons" or something else.

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Sura Kim
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-02-07 16:02:11 UTC
"Why not" has brought a lot of problems with Eve in the past. Mostly developer resource allocation issues from my memory.

If legacy stuff doesn't require maintenance, yeah, CCP will add it. (They have done so in the past on few occasions, I think) But it does require additional resources, the major one being the legacy and premium client issues.

A game, especially an online game, has to keep evolving and everyone needs to stay on the same ground. If CCP starts to add legacy stuff, and that later it is revealed that legacy stuff will give users more framerates or whatsoever, people will start to use legacy stuff for any advantage. This is just one example of what might happen.
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#63 - 2012-02-07 17:23:14 UTC
Sura Kim wrote:
"Why not" has brought a lot of problems with Eve in the past. Mostly developer resource allocation issues from my memory.

If legacy stuff doesn't require maintenance, yeah, CCP will add it. (They have done so in the past on few occasions, I think) But it does require additional resources, the major one being the legacy and premium client issues.

A game, especially an online game, has to keep evolving and everyone needs to stay on the same ground. If CCP starts to add legacy stuff, and that later it is revealed that legacy stuff will give users more framerates or whatsoever, people will start to use legacy stuff for any advantage. This is just one example of what might happen.



Like the CQs?

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Sura Kim
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-02-07 19:54:58 UTC
Captain's quarter, or at least the concept, was talked about by CCP as early as 2005. It was a fairly ambitious project at that time. And it wasn't supposed to like the current Captain's quarter. It was supposed to add a whole new layer of social aspect to Eve.

It looked good on paper (everything looks good on paper anyways...) and many players, including myself, wanted it to become the reality.

But, alas, I guess it had been in development for too long and many aspects went wrong during the long (or lack of) development.

The current captain's quarter is a total failure.
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#65 - 2012-02-08 07:37:11 UTC
i find shipspinning better, but the old turent models looked better on the ships (Enyo with Neutron blasters looked good. and now, same ship with Neutronblasters, Looks EPIC FAIL)

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#66 - 2012-02-12 13:59:38 UTC
keep this thread going

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Jace Errata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-02-12 19:11:19 UTC
Gustav Mannfred wrote:
keep this thread going

No.

(yeah free bump I know, but it was on the front page already.)

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#68 - 2012-02-19 12:12:06 UTC
bump? again, why? i want keep this thread going :)

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2012-02-19 15:46:05 UTC
I have to admit I prefered the pre Crucible versions (or not the really old ones) purely from an asthetic point of view as opposed to notstalgia, I think they afforded easier identifiable discrpensies in some cases also, like the turret icons, making it quick to recognise which is which.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#70 - 2012-02-19 16:31:13 UTC
Meh. The old turrets looked terrible. The new ones look better.
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#71 - 2012-02-21 17:36:07 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Meh. The old turrets looked terrible. The new ones look better.



what looked terrible on it? the new ones dont look terrible, but it hits better on the ships :) Ever want see a Tornado with the old turnet graphic

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2012-02-21 19:08:29 UTC
Gustav Mannfred wrote:
the idea is, to make the new modules optional. These guys, whos find better the new weapons can use it as well (like CQ)


No, that's not the idea. The only reason why the ship hanger was returned was because right now, CQ is just impractical and slow. You don't add options if they don't serve a function.

Adding the old turrets don't serve any function. Plus, it seems that the only thing the player base liked about Incarna was the new turrets. Bringing them back won't do anything.

Plus, you can't even clearly see the details on the turrets past the frigate leve when your flying in space so what's the point?


Look, CCP is really busy right now as they are putting production of DUST 514 in full gear AND trying to improve EVE Online. And CCP isn't the super game developer that you may think it is. Time is the most precious resource when you work on a deadline and wasting it by adding frivolous features that do nothing is a recipe for disaster.

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XS Tech
#73 - 2012-02-21 19:36:49 UTC
Eisa Vitura wrote:

Look at 0.28: the heron or the buzzard are dedicated missile launcher, but they are shown with turrets, 1.02 ... a f**** raven with Ion Blaster II WTF CCP ?


There are four (4) turret slots on the Raven ...

just because they're un-used/bonused/etc doesn't mean they won't fit.

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#74 - 2012-02-26 12:40:38 UTC
time to keep this thread online... cant stop missing old weapontowermodels ad nebulaes :(

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Le Sac
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#75 - 2012-02-26 15:32:31 UTC
I can't believe that people actually think the old models were better. The change is one of the best things to have happened to EVE in a long time, and if you think otherwise you're probably objectively wrong.
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#76 - 2012-02-27 16:47:58 UTC
@ killorbekilled TBE, this isnt a trollthread :)

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Daeva Teresa
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2012-02-27 18:08:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Daeva Teresa
Its never going to hapen, you will never have old turrets back. It must be obvious to you, so why you keep bumping this trollthread?

CCP really please dont use Upgraded, Limited, Experimental and Prototype in item names. It sounds like the item is actually worse than basic meta 1 item. Use Calibrated, Enhanced, Optimized and Upgraded. Its really easy to understand that the item is better than meta 1 and its also in alphabetic order.

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2012-02-27 18:38:54 UTC
Screw turrets! Remove them entirely from the game! Missile launchers only!

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#79 - 2012-03-04 09:45:51 UTC
Daeva Teresa wrote:
Its never going to hapen, you will never have old turrets back. It must be obvious to you, so why you keep bumping this trollthread?



how you want know this?

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#80 - 2012-03-12 17:44:28 UTC
it was long ago, that i bumpet this thread... i do it right now

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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