Jita Park Speakers Corner

Oh good you know how to edit.

So, no I am not new to business.

If I was, I would think that some customer elected body, in a biased election, could somehow represent anyone's interests but the elected. I would then whine about how my interests aren't being represented, even though any individual's interests are never served in a democracy, universal suffrage democracy or not. Then, having removed my own moral high ground by stating that I am the moral equivalent of who I am whining about, I would then go on to alienate everyone I could, you know, just to make my position as unsympathetic as possible.

For the first time since the CSM was created, finally, we have got CCP to actually listen and start to fix many of the broken things in Eve, and to actually focus on what Eve is rather than force it into a change that wasnt that popular, while still promising to actually sort out Incarna when Eve is ready for it.

So, what is it you actually want? Are you mad that the CSM has actually succeeded, or are you mad that the success was partly due to someone you arbitrarily hate, probably due to what you have been told by your peers?

I really am sick of hearing about how Goonswarm and Mittani are destroying Eve, in my four and a half years of playing I have spent the last eight or nine months allied to Goonswarm, guess what I found? That they are alot of fun to fly with and are really not that different to every other faction in Eve. They scam, cheat, lie and splde people, just like everyone else does, they are simply more honest about it.

Well its like i said when the current CSM got elected.. Mittens is a jerk.... but he is a jerk who is on our side (the players) so its a good thing.

Lawyers are jerks but everyone likes one when they're advocating our own cause.

+1 for the mental picture

It does raise a very good point though, does a handful of narcissistic megalomaniacs (<--not even directed at the entire CSM) truly represent YOUR interests in Eve or just Toolswarm Federations?

Good post totally agree, You do realise the term "pubbie" is an insult as well though?

Erm.... what?

How can you state something like this, you have access to their Skype meetings or something?

what CCP should understand is that just like CCP the CSM sits there with there own agenda.
If you have large alliances with allot of members voting for there guy. They will want what is best for them.
This has nothing to do with what is best for eve in general or its players..

LOL Goons are almost always on the defencive. While PL,NCDOT,Raiden where on break even IRC where powning Goons arses. Skill is very loosely used when implying it with a Goon. Goons are what they are, a swarm of bad/average players with exceptions ofc, reliant upon corruption, self gaining influences, lagg & having mass odds on fights. But where else would they go, as quality alliances will only recruit skilled players/experienced Vets.

If Goons where any good with Supers/Titans, new how & when to use them & hadn't sold alot of there Super capital fleet off the current insult of a winter patch wouldn't be looming. The current patch can't viably go ahead anyway, so much wrong with it,does very little to benifit EVE community, but does benifit a insignificant few entities. It brakes a broken game even more.
Refine Supers/Titans down, do something positive & benificial for the game, this is what every1 including Goons/DC should strive for regardless,not bl00dy minded self gain.

A few sidenotes to this:

NeXgate was an uproar from playerbase and not something the CSM set up. It was the playerbase which got CCP's attention.
Any CSM adoring himself with feathers over this is nothing more than a smug crow walking around with a peacocks feathers.

The CSM has no influence. They are nothing more than an overglorified sounding board to see what CCP can get away with. Or think they can get away with since this CSM works only for a part of the playerbase.
The fact WoD and Dust got scaled down is merely due to the fact that the only cashcow CCP has atm is EVE. the other 2 only cost money for the time being.
Since CCP has to keep it's shareholders and other parties whom they owe money happy they firt have to make sure the cashcow doesn't die of starvation.

WoD and Dust development do continue and when they hit the market eventually and start bringing in money, THAT is the time to see what the value of EVE still is for them.

Awesome! Another one of these threads, all made by the same group of people.

I'm not sure if the thread actually has a point or is just another in a long string of "I hate goons so I'm going to post how angry I am that they are on the CSM" thread but this will be my contribution.

I think we've done a pretty good job. We all ran on platforms, I think I've helped move the narrative along in a way that has improved the status of the issues I've outlined in my platform. Mittens had his platform, he's done a fantastic job putting attention where it's been needed. The rest of the CSM get's along mostly great and our working relationship with the rank and file CCP devs has been nothing short of astounding so everything as far as I can see is going swimmingly.

I think some of the haters out there are mad because we're blowing up your empire miners.

Some others are upset because they don't like how some of us carry ourselves in public.

A few are just upset because they hated that they got scammed by a goon once and this is their venue to rant about it.

A few had vested interests in maintaining a broken status quo and our push to bring supercaps down to earth pissed them off (I'm especially smug about this one).

There have even been some people who were mad that I didn't take a silly rant thread seriously! I continue to be under no obligation to act as you want me to. You ain't my momma.



None of the above has any impact on our ability to do a KICKEN RAD job representing the players and doing what we can to help make this game great again.

So peace out thread, you've been fun. Can't wait to post in tomorrow's version!

hugs and kisses,

the guy who won the election by getting more votes by people who think we're doing exactly what they sent us here to do.