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Dust, money well spent eh?

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FLUFFY DELIVERIES
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-30 14:25:15 UTC  |  Edited by: FLUFFY DELIVERIES
I will keep it short, with all the money invested in dust... its kinda sad it can only pull a rating of 5.8 from ign?

Reminds me of walking in stations... another ground breaking project that took years to construct and was ultimately a massive flop.

other peoples thoughts?

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/05/30/dust-514-review
Othran
Route One
#2 - 2013-05-30 14:39:49 UTC
Wow that's a bad bad review. Couldn't get a lot worse than that.

This bit made me laugh Lol

"And truth be told, most normal players will never participate in a battle of real significance anyhow, because at this point nearly every territory is held by well-run super corps that have more than 200 members and strong ties to the most influential EVE guilds."

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose as the garlic eaters would say.....
Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-05-30 14:41:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Spooner
On the one hand it's IGN, finger toy of the Fox conglomerate, on the other hand it does raise valid points. Also gj whoever made goonfeet, you dirty fetishist you.
Din Chao
#4 - 2013-05-30 14:43:59 UTC
Othran wrote:
Couldn't get a lot worse than that..

It could, roughly, get 5.8 points worse than that, actually.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#5 - 2013-05-30 14:44:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
While the mechanics can stand improvement, and the rewards system for the DUST players needs some added depth at their end (as is being worked on), the reviewer completely misses the point of the skill system.

There is no grind (unless you wish it to be so), and gaining skills quickly is frankly of little importance. This will become more apparent as more goals and rewards are added for the DUST players to strive for. At the moment though it's painfully apparent that the reviewer is still thinking in terms of other FPS games on the market.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-05-30 14:45:25 UTC
When did IGN become credible reviewers?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#7 - 2013-05-30 14:47:29 UTC
Oh no, CCP didn't pay IGN's royalty fees for a decent review. Woe is us, the EVE/DUST community will never recover from this atrocity!!

Oh well, back to Mass Effect 3 I suppose.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Ike Snicklefritz
Pink Fuzzy Dice
#8 - 2013-05-30 14:47:56 UTC
It feels like CCP kind of had to rush to get the game "released" by 5/14 when it still feels like it's in beta, and I'd be pretty disappointed if this was all we were getting. My own rating of Dust would probably be in the 6.something range, which isn't good for your typical game, but Dust really isn't your typical game.

Dust is free to play and they're developing it for the long run, much like EVE. Whether it will work out is still up in the air, but I actually enjoy the game despite the bugs and I'm excited for its potential. Don't dismiss it just because initial many reviews are (justifiably) poor.

In short, reviews at this point are just a snapshot of it still early in its development. Point out the flaws so they can be addressed, but also give it some time before writing it off.
FLUFFY DELIVERIES
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-05-30 14:49:20 UTC  |  Edited by: FLUFFY DELIVERIES
Malcanis wrote:
When did IGN become credible reviewers?


they have been for a long time... read the reviews they are pretty fair and explain their ratings well Cool

anywho im not saying they are the most credible but it does give eve players like u and I an insight into what casual gamer's think, also i would like to point out... before this post they were actually predicting good things for dust

Ike Snicklefritz wrote:


In short, reviews at this point are just a snapshot of it still early in its development. Point out the flaws so they can be addressed


Maybe true, personally i don't see it lasting a year but hopefully i will be proved wrong... i played it and thought it was pretty poor.
Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-05-30 14:50:05 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
When did IGN become credible reviewers?

Were they ever?
Mulani Askiras
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-05-30 14:53:19 UTC
FLUFFY DELIVERIES wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
When did IGN become credible reviewers?


they have been for a long time... read the reviews they are pretty fair and explain their ratings well Cool



IGN has never, and i reiterate the word never, been a source of credible reviews. They get paid to write glowing words. You don't pay them, you get a 5 second review which glosses over what the reviewer experienced while they completed one of their paid for reviews.
Othran
Route One
#12 - 2013-05-30 14:54:51 UTC
He's saying pretty much what I've seen elsewhere (forums) so I think resorting to shooting the messenger is pretty desperate.

I've seen comments like "its like the worst bunny-hopping you ever saw", "takes forever to work out what the equipment options are" and "point and pray".

The ONLY positive comments I've seen have been from Eve players. Even then you get a grudging "yeah there's still a lot to be fixed" from those with more FPS experience.

Now I'm sure that the truth lies in between those extremes but Dust isn't what it should be in terms of FPS gameplay and I can quite believe CCP have overdone the microtransaction stuff. There but for the grace of gods go all of us who play Eve....
Vincent R'lyeh
Screaming Hayabusa
#13 - 2013-05-30 14:56:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent R'lyeh
Sounds to me like the IGN reviewer and at least half of the commentards need an introduction to the word HTFU......

Oh noes this game takes some time to skill up, oh noes I can't just run and gun immediately, oh noes I have to actually like train **** before I become a better shot?

<- Hello Kitty Online's that way bitches

Comedy stereotypical Eve forum response aside this is/was always going to be a problem Dust would face. It's not a typical COD clone, it's not a standard FPS - It's Eve on the ground and so is always going to get negative feedback from people expecting just another FPS.

People complain about the dumbing down of Eve but then people also worry the CCP have wasted their time when typical instant gratification reviewers & FPS players complain that the game is too hard?

You can't have it both ways...

I have deliberately developed an air of cynicism that I originally intended to make me appear somewhat louche and caddish but actually comes across as irritable hostility combined with the unspoken threat of sudden violence.....
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#14 - 2013-05-30 14:57:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenchi Sal
IGN being taken serious... wow... thats a first. These are the same guys that gave diablo III a 9.5. IGN has never been taken serious before. Their reviews are more of a popularity contest. Sorta like the MTV teen choice awards.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-05-30 14:58:15 UTC
Quote:
at this point nearly every territory is held by well-run super corps that have more than 200 members and strong ties to the most influential EVE guilds."


WOAH!
200 man corps?!

Id hate to see the battles that happen when 2 of these gigantic corps collide!

I mean 200 people, wow...just WOW.

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Pipernelli Spacemitt
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-05-30 15:04:05 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Quote:
at this point nearly every territory is held by well-run super corps that have more than 200 members and strong ties to the most influential EVE guilds."


WOAH!
200 man corps?!

Id hate to see the battles that happen when 2 of these gigantic corps collide!

I mean 200 people, wow...just WOW.


Putty in the paws of our elite guilds.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-05-30 15:05:42 UTC
The problem with IGN is they are reviewing the game in its current state. If they realised about CCP then they would know that the game is almost in a beta stage and will be constantly updated. They are probably correct though with regards to the game in its current state. I played it last time and graphics are still very poor, and little integration with eve yet. So 5.8 is probably spot on. But I am more confident for the future providing it survives.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-05-30 15:14:00 UTC
well the game has been released and it's not had great reviews so far, and it's not even the hardcore gaming aspects that are getting most panned it's the basic shooting mechanics and general fun of it which is much more serious.

forums.  serious business.
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#19 - 2013-05-30 15:17:27 UTC
Othran wrote:
...and "point and pray".


That's a pretty reliable tactic in Eve, so why not DUST?

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Admiral Sarah Solette
Drop the Soap
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2013-05-30 15:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette
The review raises quite a few very valid issues with the game, wether the fanboiz would agree. I will say that when more 'credible' review sources come in say the same things, how will the fanboiz defend CCP's decision then?

Edit: I got interrupted mid post, so my grammar train was derailled. :(
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