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Is it worthwhile to mission in low or null sec?
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#41 - 2013-07-26 10:52:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Foiritain
Cipher Jones wrote:
Fango Mango wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
440 mil an hour on your best day not including the selling time, yes. 440 mil an hour sustained, no ******* way.


No, 4 missions per hour is more like an average to below average day.

On your best day its 8 missions per hour and a 1.2 Billion Faction Implant as well.

Again, I've run thousands of L5s, and I can say from experience that running 4 missions per/hour is easy.

Do you have anything to add other than you have never blitzed Level 5s, probably never even run L5s, but are still an expert on how they are run?

-FM


Based on the numbers given and the market data available in game, its a foregone conclusion. A 1.2 bil faction implant that takes 2 days to sell is not 1.2 bil in an hour, its 1.2 bil over 48 hours.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

This is the dumbest thing ive read in months. The amount of time something takes to sell is irrelevant, dropping something on the market takes 3 seconds and requires no further input. Its also irrelevant to the discussion which was about the ISK/hour income of missions.

Then theres the fact that nobody said they made 1.2 bill an hour. They say they make 440 mill an hour and on a good day they also get a 1.2 bill implant, which spread out over the entire time spent running missions will actually increase the ISK/Hour but that depends on the drop rate of the implant.

dexington wrote:
I don't know how you got the implant, so i assume you got it from a mission somehow...

You are saying you make 440M pr. hour, which does imply you are getting the implant every hour. It's kind of the same as saying, if you can make 1.2B of one mission and do 8 missions each hour you are making 9B an hour. If would be more precise to take a longer period of time look at the total income and time used, to calculate the isk pr. hour, and note the maximum and minimum values.


You should learn to read, he guy never said the 1.2 bill implant was part of the hourly figures, he said the 1.2 bill implant is a bonus which turns an average day into a good day.

Nuela wrote:
All that said, it pays less than hisec all things considered. Pirate LP is neat and my alt took 2 Nightmare BPC's from doing this (I know, I know - much better lp to isk items there like implants) but pirate LP, surprisingly, is not worth as much isk as you think....PLUS you need to get it to hisec.

Lol If you think pirate missions pay less then high sec you've been doing them wrong. If you work for a pirate faction that has a system with 4+ level 4 agents in it and you can run 2/3 accounts you can easily make between 200 and 400 mill an hour.

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Nuela
WoT Misfits
#42 - 2013-07-26 13:58:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Nuela
Joshua Foiritain wrote:


Nuela wrote:
All that said, it pays less than hisec all things considered. Pirate LP is neat and my alt took 2 Nightmare BPC's from doing this (I know, I know - much better lp to isk items there like implants) but pirate LP, surprisingly, is not worth as much isk as you think....PLUS you need to get it to hisec.

Lol If you think pirate missions pay less then high sec you've been doing them wrong. If you work for a pirate faction that has a system with 4+ level 4 agents in it and you can run 2/3 accounts you can easily make between 200 and 400 mill an hour.



Lotsa if's there. Even so, this would be true in hisec as well without the real possibility of losing ships, needing to gate jump into bubbles, bubbling station games, camped etc. In addition, this pirate faction system with 4+ level agents will attract these people like ugly to a Gallente.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#43 - 2013-07-26 17:41:45 UTC
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This is the dumbest thing ive read in months


If your **** don't sell you don't get the money. If it sells slowly you get the money slowly. If you only have one to sell and it takes 2 days to sell then all the LP you make in those 2 days adds up and you cant cash it in. Which is why I said you can make it (400mil/hr) but not sustain it.

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Jewel Noret
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-07-29 22:48:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jewel Noret
Cipher Jones wrote:
Quote:
This is the dumbest thing ive read in months


If your **** don't sell you don't get the money. If it sells slowly you get the money slowly. If you only have one to sell and it takes 2 days to sell then all the LP you make in those 2 days adds up and you cant cash it in. Which is why I said you can make it (400mil/hr) but not sustain it.


Wow, the idiocy on the forums never ceases to amaze me. He very clearly stated that he cashed in his LP once a month, and his sell orders were gone before next months cash out. That's roughly 30 days. Stop thinking in terms of instant gratification. I too have a spreadsheet, and there are many items currently netting over 1k per LP with enough demand to support my daily LP earnings. Can I earn LP 24/7 and expect to be able to cash it all out? Of course not, but for some of us with lives gaming 24/7 really isn't appealing anyway. At some point I will probably go on a binder and have a large surplus of LP that I won't be able to convert in a month. Then I will go do other things while still enjoying the steady income. And yes, I will still have earned that isk at the same isk/hour rate, just with a deferred payout.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#45 - 2013-07-30 05:18:53 UTC
Jewel Noret wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Quote:
This is the dumbest thing ive read in months


If your **** don't sell you don't get the money. If it sells slowly you get the money slowly. If you only have one to sell and it takes 2 days to sell then all the LP you make in those 2 days adds up and you cant cash it in. Which is why I said you can make it (400mil/hr) but not sustain it.


Wow, the idiocy on the forums never ceases to amaze me. He very clearly stated that he cashed in his LP once a month, and his sell orders were gone before next months cash out. That's roughly 30 days. Stop thinking in terms of instant gratification. I too have a spreadsheet, and there are many items currently netting over 1k per LP with enough demand to support my daily LP earnings. Can I earn LP 24/7 and expect to be able to cash it all out? Of course not, but for some of us with lives gaming 24/7 really isn't appealing anyway. At some point I will probably go on a binder and have a large surplus of LP that I won't be able to convert in a month. Then I will go do other things while still enjoying the steady income. And yes, I will still have earned that isk at the same isk/hour rate, just with a deferred payout.


I know what he said. And I said look at the market and see how many of them sell. The market goes back a year, not a month.

He was talking about making more than 1k per LP.

Learn what sustainable means before you call me an idiot directly or indirectly.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
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