EVE General Discussion

You ignored the 1/2 of his comment that did not agree with you... so let me fix this for you -

I would like to add that the eve CLIENT is already a fully multithreaded process. Mine is usually running between 50-100 threads simultaneously. All those threads perform different functions - some IO, some specific computations, some simply managing the gpu cache - etc. Those tasks do end up getting spread throughout the multiple cores in a system (not proportionally, as the tasks themselves to not all rely on the same amount of processing power.

OPTIMIZED multithreading would spread processor intensive tasks evenly to different cores - however, there are only one or two tasks the client really does that affect performance, and yes, those tasks reside in a single main task, so that is why most the cpu load of the exefile process run on a single core. however, support tasks (voice chat, IO, cache management, etc) are done in their own distinct threads, and those can be and are easily handled off to other cores, at the discretion of the OS.

The discussion of multithreading for performance improvements has been in regards to the sol system servers, NOT the client. The reason they had to implement time dilation was to compensate for the fact that usage growth in the single-threaded sol process has increased faster than hardware speeds have. multithreading the sol process is not entirely easy, as it is a linear progression of actions and results, continually running once every second (or longer now with time dilation). The only real way to multithread that sequence is to break the systems up into smaller chunks - which could have a lot more consequences.

So is this thread ever going to reach a point where we stop conflating any/ever technology that eve doesn't currently use with a 64 client?

I'm coming late to this thread, but we have no plans for a 64-bit EVE Client. The EVE Universe Server is 64-bit because we need access to the extra memory but there is only need for a 64-bit EVE Client once we need more than 3 GB on Windows XP / Windows Vista 32 or 4 GB on Windows Vista/7/8 64. Otherwise refer to the replies from Tippia, they were all quite good.

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Excellent post Explorer. Thanks for clearing that up for everyone.

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Unless you end up in a situation where you need to compare integers larger then 32 bit, or need memory allocation beyond 32 bit address space, you are not really gaining anything by using 64 bit registers.

Depending on the instruction set of the CPU there may be optimized instructions for comparing larger then 32 bit values, on 32 bit systems, but often this can be done without any extra help from the CPU. Most of the time it would be enough to compare the left or right 32 bit part of the 64 bit value, and only compare the remaining part if a match was found in the first part.

Besides a lot of the really heavy number crunching is done on the GPU, which is likely to be using larger then 64 bit registers.

How much better would eve be with 32 more bits than it had now.

seems to work fine for me as it is.

Only reason not have a 64bit OS is due to still owning a 32bit CPU

Unlikely you have one of those if you bought your computer in the last 5+ years!

We know some businesses still use them in their embedded devices which is why ms still sells 32bit, but who here is logging into eve via a heart monitor???

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