EVE New Citizens Q&A

75 million for the ship (as mentioned in an earlier post) + ~250 million of deadspace and faction mods and T2 rigs

convo me ingame I'll show you how to fly it safe. meet in low sec, bring your gnosis.

Err... no.

Bait is a PVP setup, when you want to sit and look helpless, look like a good target, lure enemies in and then have your friends warp in and blow those enemies up. A bait setup is not good for anything other than surviving a short while (maybe)

For any form of PVE ship, you want enough tank to survive the NPCs and no more. You want enough DPS to kill things fast, the more the better. If you're in you're exploring in lowsec typically you don't survive a PVP encounter by being tough, you survive by not being there when the attackers arrive.

A bait setup running exploration sites will have far too little DPS to do the sites efficiently and having a lot of buffer does one thing only when you're solo and a roaming gang pins you down and you have no friends to call for backup.



T1 Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade - 250 000 ISK

This discussion is pointless, especially since the OP´s perception on things is infested by what he has seen somewhere and deduced from it it is the the right thing to do or at least possible. No argument seem s to be able to distract him from that gained 'knowledge' , which is just a fake illusion.

Did anybody check his age and notice that he is just one day out off tutorial... probably not. The Gnosis is a rookie trap and that's exactly what he stepped into with his image of what he could and should do with it as soon as possible.

Dear OP, it is no use to theorize and theo craft a fit for a Gnosis or any ship beyond your reach for that matter (probably even a cruisers and the Gnosis is a battlecrusier, one step further) if you have not understood the simplest game mechanics or how skill training works and how important it is, not to mention the magnitude of the time it will take you.

And with having no idea, what you are talking about, throwing terms like bubbles in and gank and pvp, exploration and other key words around, this is not a discussion or an argument, which you so heartily claim it is supposed to, despitre of what you say > YOU ARE asking us to fit your ship.

You will lack the skills and not only to use the modules, but to fit them, just to get enough power grid and cpu and cap to do so will probably cost you 20-30 days of training time, and those are just base skills, that include no weapon, armor, or pilot skills and in 20-30 days a lot can happen to the idea of what you want to do or fly.

The conclusion is as always, just because you can fly something, does not mean you should. (even if it was already said before, i can not emphasize it enough)

Come back in 2 months and some increase in skills, game experience and understanding and we are willing to help you out if questions arise. as it is now, it is frustrating for everyone and ... did i mention pointless ?!

If you have room for it due to fitting requirements...throw in a damage control

Oh man, how i hate to reply ...

All the capacitor rechargers are for the armor repper, which takes 80x as much cap as a blaster. also for the AB or MDW, later even reducing max cap by a nice 20%.

Go learn to fly a frigate, and that well, then you can learn to handle a destroyer and after that a cruiser and by the time you get to the battlecruiser, oh my, you got most of the basic skills to a decent level and already know, what the values, stats and modules mean, do and need. - you knwo, you can train only frigate related skills and after 18 months still not be done with it.... and you are jumping 4 steps, no, rather miles ahead ...

And you know, there are people who actually read the info of ships and modules before posting on the forum or even asking in the rookie help, how about it, ever noticed the 'info' option in the 'RMB' menu ??

Giving the gnosis a 0 skill req, was one of the worst ideas, 90% loose them, before they see battle, the rest is drilling the community months ahead about how to fit and fly them.

you know, i do 1 on 1 beginner training, since kind of the first week, yes, i am very attentive and able to understand gameplay and game mechanics, and the first thing i do is, to teach them a bout frigates and that they should forget about anything bigger for at least 2 weeks. and they all learn well and turn out to be decent pilots.

Ok, so the result of the discussion:

Skip shild skills (no dual tanking)
Stress cap skills (I thought I will not need them so much, but I changed my mind)
Go active armor instead of buffer.
Should also focus on drone and missile skills to get more firepower

Now I can set some skill planning to be able to fly Gnosis in a month or a bit later... Just to be sure, I bought myself the second one for 61 mio.

Big thanks to Elena Thiesant and Minmatar Citizen160812 for very constructive advices.

I also thank
Zippy Aideron
Jane Schereau
Thomas Builder
Glor Thindel
J'Poll
for their answers.