EVE General Discussion

Relies only on itself is pretty self explanatory. Small of course depends on the individuals point of view.

"Don't nerf the titan jump bridges because it will nerf the slot 9 crew hull modifier!"

See.

Im still reading page 6 but i want to give my experience.

I used to roam Fade/Pureblind/Dek in 2006. Group of 4-8 people, had engages on every system with station with similar groups of people. Why?, because they couldnt afford to be paralized by our gang roaming, they where separated from the rest of the aliance (no blob), and needed to pass through our gang.

Now all the fun would be getting blobed by a 50 man fleet cynoed by a Titan i cant even know where it is. Not even titan is necesary BOps work also.

Eve was much better those days. If i could choose i would play that game, you can even have my skillpoints (Yes! even with nanophoons!!!!!!). And that is a pretty serious statement, because after 7 years of "improving" they are making an awesome game mediocre.

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Malcanis wants 00 industry to compete with highsec in number of slots without realizing that null only needs to supply local residents. Ignoring that OP is not about spreadsheets, its about pvp and fun. This dosent mean it dosent need to be fixed, they are diferent albeit related problems.

P.D.--> Comparing lane hunting to suicide ganking as game mechanics is like comparing the battle of the atlantic with auswitch. Lots of pvp in auswitch..... but not that much fun.

P.D.-->Moving production to poses AND nerfing the logistics could be the solution. Unlimited production on 00, and hard/fun to get it out.

So in your world some corp in the alliance who has their convoy intercepted would be on their own? Cool story.

What's to stop them from just flying cloaky/nullified T3s past you now.

That's the point i've been making. Now is not the past, what worked in the past worked for a variety of reasons (one of which may be lower population), which means it wouldn't work the same way today.

There is also a fair bit of "viewing the past through rose colored glasses" that goes on, as if the EVE of the past had no issues and was great. Just like how people tend to view past relationships (like marriages) more favorably "now" (years later) than they did when they were married lol.

Not that i think that EVE is perfect and can't be improved, but a lot of people making suggestions nowadays don't seem to be very realistic in their reasoning.

Uh huhn...and that goes directly against your initial kneejerk crybaby response, but then again I'm responding to noted forum moron marlona sky, so I shouldn't be surprised.

Ok, so you have no actual point and are just trying, unsuccessfully, to "win something" on an internet spaceships forum. Got it.

Just pointing out the obvious: that your argument is the current situation isn't a blue doughnut, but any change to easy logistics and force projection would create said blue doughnut. There never was a blue doughnut before and isn't one now, so why would either argument (your or the strawman you constructed to represent mine) be valid?




Well said.

Speaking from experience - a single max-skilled Nyx will 2-volley a typical freighter or JF.

Fighter Bombers volley every 15 seconds.

Adding in some travel time for the Fibos, this means that inside of probably 45-50 seconds, from start to finish, the raison d'être of your convoy fleet is dead.

Unless you have no qualms with tossing loaded freighters or JFs out as bait, there are better ways to get fights.

Well, we're a small alliance that relies only on itself for our null to high logistics. For some definition of the word small.



Marlona's explanation aside, what you've proposed be demonstrated is impossible since individual corporations cannot hold sov. I assumed her meaning to be small alliances, and her wording to be a simple misnomer. Also, she never specififed it couldn't have blues, just that it was non-gimmick (whatever that means to her).



This, however, is absolute fact. If you have the means to light the cynos, and the ability to scout the way, you can move an incredible amount of people and combat assets at a ridiculous pace across the map.

Dynamic objectives are too "complicated" in PvP games. In general people prefer their PvP to be like there PvE, go here and fight this. In PvE the "this" is usually a woefully outmatched NPC. In PvP the "this" is usually a woefully outmatched player character.

One PvP game I used to play went from static to dynamic PvP objectives, and people rage quit en masse because the mechanic broke up the zerg. I applaud the OP's idea but also offer the above cautionary tale.