EVE General Discussion

Why is there no way for us to attack supply lines in eve?

The addition of Jump capable ships, made supplying large groups less of a chore, but had the adverse effect of making supply lines completely immune to attack in any meaningful form.

Try as you might there's no effective way to cut your opponent off.


Warp dec there haulers? - NPC Corp

Gank them? - sec status drops to quickly to be effective.

Attack them in low sec or Null? - Local Intel, Instant 100% correct, check local see person, don't undock/jump.

AFK in Local? - add new jump points, AFKer cant be in every system at one time.

As it stands now in eve your supply lines are 99% safe 99% of the time if you only take the simplest of precautions.

Baring the random tard the logistic back bone of every group in EvE is safely tucked away behind Extremely easy counters.

---

When i first started playing EvE i Wanted to be a pirate praying on the Haulers moving the Supply's from high sec to low and null, and the riches from null/low to high-sec. In the start it was great fun fighting the fleets guarding these haulers for the hopes of getting the sweet loot that was inside of them. We Even had deals going to actively hunt some corps supply lines for a while.

But that Play stile is long dead, and in the past years of eve.

Now i spend my time patrolling WHs for even a small reminder of the days of old.



----------------------------------

I imagine the situation would change significantly if modules and ammo were larger than the minerals required to build them. Imagine if 425mm rail guns were 1500m3 instead of 50m3?

Would it still be cheaper to jump 40 freighter loads of titanium to null rather than mining it locally?

this would be nice. pvp is rather stagnant and boring atm. making it easier to disrupt supply lines would be interesting. it would also force people to actually engage others.

I imagine with the roid changes that'll be less of an issue.

Most logistic guys in larger entities know the tricks of the pirates, yes. This is not really a problem as it forces people to find new ways...

Meh, I never saw the introduction of jump drives as a benefit for the game in general. Sure it is of benefit of the individual player, but in total it reduces game play aspects for many just to make things more convenient for a few.

Though, I am still living in the hope that one day all low sec systems will have cynosural blockers.

Because some genius decided it would be cool to have cyno-bridges and cyno-freighters, listening to the 0.0 "lazy" crowd.

There was a time, between freighter introduction and cyno-bridges (way before jumpfreighters), when 0.0 ppl hauled stuff in with large freighter convoys. I still have fraps footage of epic convois.

Yes, sometimes it was tedious, but heck what a thrill when hostiles tried to intercept you. I was lucky to be part of 2 campaigns where we had to do stuff like this, i will always remember.

Then ppl started to use Titans to bridge freighters (lol), the less rich used carriers (at least still having to cross high/lowsec) and later use cyno-bridge networks (the end of 0.0 logistics) and then jump-freighters (beating the already dead horse again eliminating even the highsec/lowsec jump).

it wasn't awesome. it was a friggin' nerve trainwreck. I can assure you that planning a freighter convoy in the days before POS jumpgates and JF's was the equivalent of planning to cart several tons of fresh meat in the open thru a stretch of several thousand kilometeres.

and every milimeter of that path has one hundred hungry lions waiting for you.


so yeah, it was a feat back in the day. you needed careful planing, your whole alliance would've been in constant CTA for maybe 2-3 days, you would need forward fleets, rear fleets, guarding fleets, scouts for each fleet (yeah you would keep scouts 5-10-15 jumps away, both ways and even sideways), coordinate the massive intel flow generated by these scouts and worry about spies, saboteurs, login traps, setup alternative routes, and prepare to log out pretty much all freighters in an instant's notice and keep them logged out, maybe for even more than a week to make them arrive safely.


tedious, and stressfull. I can see why JF's were a breath of fresh air on this, but then again, maybe they made it too easy.

Well if you want to punish us by nerfing our outposts to only having the 68050 build slots that hi-sec enjoys, make them invulnerable like hi-sec, make the good refineries also have plenty of slots like hi-sec, have unlimited office slots like hisec, make the supply of high-bulk low-end minerals in 0.0 sufficient to build from like hi-sec, make 0.0 ore anoms worth as much as hi-sec minerals, then I guess we'll be as hardworking as the hi-sec industrialist community too.

An easier and long over due fix is that warp scram should prevent docking. Would end station (sexually unconservitive indivudals) from hanging around stations and spreading disseases.