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I'm reasonably good at maintaining wh bookmarks, but that is a new idea to me. Makes perfect sense, I just never thought of it before. Thank you.

Don't recall who it was that was warping to each BMW and dropping a probe but that is a slow way to do it and a great way to lose your ship. As others have mentioned , just go to your safe, and put a probe at .50 AU over each of your bm's and hit scan. You immediately find out if the sig is still there and get the new I'd at the same time.

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It was me, and like I said, I don't like going into map mode, so I don't when I don't need to. I am hitting warp anyways, it doesn't take long and I have never lost a ship doing it.

Also This method is used when crossing into a new hole for the 1st time. I pop out, Check Dscan, look up some information about the system, decloak, drop 1 probe, cloak back up, hit scan to get the ID of the WH, so if I want to scan, i already have it, and can shove it to ignore right away and then deploy the rest of my probes. If I see that I don't want to scan, i just bring that baby back in ASAP. All without ever having to view the map. It is also very critical that this process takes as little time as possible. I want that probe to be on Dscan for as little time as possible, and the new improvement is going to force me into map mode so I can play a fracking game with it before I can use it. This takes away my ability to play smart while at the same time hogging my attention so I can't spam dscan like a normal person should. Also, 1 probe might get lost on someone elses dscan, but 8 probes popping out is a huge, unmistakable, unignorable signal that I am here.


I am pretty sure CCP wants us to play the game our own way, but they are restricting my options with new "improvements" in the name of making (some) things easier. I think a lot of their programmers, while being very good programmers, do not understand all the different ways that players use the game. Th is new "improvement" is obviously aimed at making it easier for 1 style of probing, and screwing the rest... I really think CCP did not even know that there where many other ways of using the scanning system.

On a side note: CCP, I know that Eve is listed under games, but you are not, and have never been making a game. Eve is supposed to be a universe, a real world. Design us a better world, and better ways of interacting with it, so we can do anything our heart desires. Right now you guys are acting like you are making a fracking game. STOP IT! I don't send you $45 per month so I can play a game. I send you $45 per month to have access to another universe. Eve is Real... or at least it is supposed to act like it is... Pay attention to your own slogans sometimes, PLEASE.

I honestly hadnt considered the applications of scanning this deeply, so was perfectly happy with the new Bubbles on Sun proposal.
However, the more I think about it, the less sense it makes.

If the probes are at point A, why is the screen showing their location as point B if thats not me setting up a Move to Point B instruction ?

Moving the probes to where I want to scan doesnt take that long, certainly less time than I imagine coding this new Start at Sun concept has taken. It seems like a good idea from a newbie scanner point of view, but long term it is actually very limiting and completely counter -intuitive.

If it were my decision I would have to remove this change and leave Honest Probe Locations as the default.

Also, has anyone considered what happens if the Post-Scan Probe Location code goes wrong and you end up defaulting to Start Location after each scan ? Dunno if it would happen, but just imagine .......

Heh, people still write constructive feedback as if somebody would read it.

Poor CSM doesn't have anything to do. Before an Expansion release! :)

If only there were some highly questionable changes in this Expansion which would attract the attention of the CSM and provide them with stuff to do...

^^ This!

Thank you CCP, this is just what we needed. Another dumbed down profession that makes veteran players regret that they chose the profession because it wasn't easy to learn so there wouldn't be throngs of people doing the same thing.

Make a timer delay (10 seconds) before signature anomalies are automatically shown, otherwise ratting in null sec is gone.

Can anyone explain pls wtf is going on with command ships. Pre Oddisey I was able to fly any T2 BC with only minimal Leadership requirements. Now i can still board them, but in description it says I still have to train 41 days for it. Also, I was able to fly Rorqual pre Oddisey, but now it says I have to train one more day for it. What is going on?

I want my probes to stay right where i leave them, i space, in pattern! multi probe sets in multi systems so i can go between systems and have my probes deployed, reconnect and scan!

hello team superfriends would you mind telling me just who's friends you are, because your no friends to us long time players. You have stabbed us in the back yet again