Intergalactic Summit

I can think of a couple of scenarios that would be considered a fate worse than death.

Ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome?

Oblivion means a total absence of experience. Did the billions of years prior to your birth trouble you? Were you tormented by the fires of the supernovae in which your atoms were concocted? Did the aeons that went by as celestial gas clouds coalesced into worlds that eventually gave rise to your body bore you? Did the volcanic upheavals that furnished those worlds with atmospheres hurt you?

No. You did not exist to experience them, and frankly if that's where I'm going then it's the fate I would prefer over an eternity. I mean, eternity? Forever, and ever, and ever without reprieve, without rest, without relent? Eternal eternity?

The thought honestly terrifies me. I couldn't name a worse punishment than existing forever.

and even if it really is paradise, where ever moment of your perpetual existence is the pinnacle of rapturous bliss, versus oblivion, then you've not addressed my point. In the former, dying is no bad thing and if you really believe that's where you're going then how can being killed be a bad thing?

And if it's the latter, and all that waits for us is simply ceasing to be, then it's the quality of our life that matters most in which case suffering and servitude and punishment for wanting to be a human being rather than somebody's... property strikes me as a worse fate than a swift end.

best of all to live out a long and healthy life on your own terms, rather than at the whim of god-botherers, though.

Your assuming your wants needs and desires when you are dead remain the same as a human does. Arguments of what a soul is exactly aside if you can humor me for a moment does not mean your experiences are the same.

An immortal indestructible soul isn't going to see the universe the way your body does. Conflict is no longer and issue because you have no food or resources to fight for.

We can only speculated what the hear after is like but to assume its like ours is short sighted.

Also your not a doctor so your speculation on Stockholm syndrome only carries so much weight.

Wow as usual my thread has diverted into a wacky to-ing and fro-ing session with people arguing about completely irrelevant stuff which is not about ME, so I'm going to quote some replies to try and steer things back on course.



Well, what's a slave holder supposed to do, say "oh you ran away but we got you back, gosh how inconvenient here have a biscuit please don't do it again"? That would hardly motivate them to behave in future.



No, but if I was the one holding them by the back of their head while they did it, I might get a bit squeamish.




You've just inflicted pain and suffering on my eyes because I had to read this reply. By your own definition you are now worse than a murderer.

Also I'm not in PIE. I just think PIE are nice peace-loving folks who have helped me out a lot. PIE aren't the only followers of the Amarr faith in the whole of the Empire you know.

Don't be silly. No slave holder does that, it defeats the purpose of having slaves in the first place.



I know. This troubles me.

It's not as if you're doing a particularly good job at these. Maybe you would be better off.

It is neither. It is faith.


Humanity itself is an arch built with the keystone of God. Take away God, and you are left with dirt and dust. A universe without God is ugly, cruel and completely without worth. Such an arch would deserve to crumble.

I like you. Never change.



More worthless self-righteousness from one of the most worthless capsuleers out there.

I would appreciate it if you would stop making annoying noises unbidden whenever the opportunity presents itself.



Funny thing is, if they ever started with you, they would not stop until quite a few if not all of us are silenced. Perhaps the cluster would be better off with that action, but that remains to be seen for sure.



The Amarr believe otherwise. That is what counts for them. In their world-view reclaiming the slave was perfectly normal.

I agree with your assessment though that death is a mercy, in the proper situation. Denying it can in some cases be considered worse than granting it.

I was a medic in the Ishukone Watch which involved psychiatric training so I could diagnose mental disorders in my squad. After retiring from field service I became a Trauma and Life Support surgeon with the Ishukone Watch Medical Support Corps.

When I became a capsuleer I graduated Doctorate of Science in Cybernetics from the School of Applied knowledge. Since graduating I have continued to study for doctorates. I have thus far earned two - Quantum Physics and Hydromagnetic physics.

Via implanted learning I have also attained doctorate-level educations in a broad variety of scientific and engineering fields, including electromagnetic physics, high-energy physics, mechanical engineering and astrogeology, though I am without formal qualifications in those fields.

All of which is completely irrelevant, however. Whether or not my diagnosis of Stockholm Syndrome is accurate is not a function of whether or not I am a qualified psychiatrist. You don't need to be a marine biologist to correctly identify a dolphin, nor do you need to be an astrophysicist to recognize a black hole.

People say that change is sometimes necessary but difficult. However, I don't like doing things that are difficult, so if it's also not necessary, then great! Thanks for your support.



Another piece of feedback pointing in the direction that getting completely drunk is the solution. Thanks for your guidance on this matter.