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[ALXVP] War Declaration: Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#81 - 2013-05-29 22:05:37 UTC
Streya Jormagdnir wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:


The Summit.

Kanaya Laskey > Could I get a direct link to where this system is? Just to see travel time.
Saede Riordan laughs. "Sure."
Saede Riordan > J174317

So, now everyone knows that your wormhole is J174317.



I'm afraid you conflated two items of w-space jargon.

J174317 is a system, not a wormhole. Anyone with proper lookup tools could have found the locus signature of our system by now. The policy refers to exit wormholes.


If I understand correctly then, your starbase is not located in the J174317 system ?
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#82 - 2013-05-29 22:24:55 UTC
If only terrible posting was counted in combat statistics, this "war" might actually mean something.

Katrina Oniseki
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#83 - 2013-05-29 22:28:07 UTC
You people are having a very hard time grasping this concept.

Let me put it to you this way. You know the name of Saede's house, but that does not give you directions to it. One day it could be in Fraire. The next day it could be in Rancer. What they are guarding is the path to their home. Knowing the name of their home tells you very little of strategic value.
Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#84 - 2013-05-29 23:21:20 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
You people are having a very hard time grasping this concept.

Let me put it to you this way. You know the name of Saede's house, but that does not give you directions to it. One day it could be in Fraire. The next day it could be in Rancer. What they are guarding is the path to their home. Knowing the name of their home tells you very little of strategic value.


Not strictly true. There is an element of a pattern to where wormholes leave, and with enough time you can get yourself exactly where you want to go.

All you need is a name.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2013-05-30 06:32:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Halete
Streya Jormagdnir wrote:

You've gone from eccentric Tribalist to Caldari Patriot and now to Amarrian Faithful in less time than it takes to build some starships.


This is incredibly lazy smear coming from somebody who knows better.

Let's review the facts;

I was a Tribalist for 23 years.

For 22 of those years I held an association with the Republic.

I have never been a Caldari Patriot nor entertained such claims.

Therefore I have moved between diametrically opposed ideologies precisely once. A decision that came after the culmination of being disenfranchised with the Republic for over 3 years.

So what exactly is it that you're trying, here?

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#86 - 2013-05-30 10:29:34 UTC
To be honest I don't even know why there is any debate about the location, path or lack thereof to or from said location or any other combination of wormhole related facts.

This war seems to be intended for the FacWar zones PYRE is engaged in, and as such even if full directions were given to said wormhole, I doubt light fleet doctrine would serve us very well against a starbase in a temporarily connected unknown system.

Simply put, intelligence without will to apply it is worthless, and so at least for myself, such musings have no inherent value within the scope of this minor conflict.
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#87 - 2013-05-30 10:46:13 UTC
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen wrote:
To be honest I don't even know why there is any debate about the location, path or lack thereof to or from said location or any other combination of wormhole related facts.

This war seems to be intended for the FacWar zones PYRE is engaged in, and as such even if full directions were given to said wormhole, I doubt light fleet doctrine would serve us very well against a starbase in a temporarily connected unknown system.

Simply put, intelligence without will to apply it is worthless, and so at least for myself, such musings have no inherent value within the scope of this minor conflict.


Quite. As Pyre Falcon are the recipient of the war declaration, I was under the impression it was for Alexylva Paradox to attempt to undermine and disrupt our operations. Not the other way around. While we can certainly reply in kind, the onus is not upon us to do so as we did not pay a fee for the pleasure, therefore have nothing to lose.
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#88 - 2013-05-30 10:56:02 UTC
Also it's pretty hard to kill a POS with Condors, sir.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2013-05-30 11:29:53 UTC
With that defeatist attitude it is, Noboru.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#90 - 2013-05-30 11:51:35 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
While we can certainly reply in kind, the onus is not upon us to do so as we did not pay a fee for the pleasure...


Read as: we have better things to do.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#91 - 2013-05-30 12:01:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Halete wrote:
With that defeatist attitude it is, Noboru.


Quite right, I shall immediately endeavour to make up for my failing by providing an effective anti-infrastructure strategy involving only frigates. I strongly advise a good stock of holovids and adderall to see us through the subsequent enacting of such a plan.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#92 - 2013-05-30 12:04:13 UTC
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen wrote:
Halete wrote:
With that defeatist attitude it is, Noboru.


Quite right, I shall immediately endeavour to make up for my failing by providing an effective anti-infrastructure strategy involving only frigates. I strongly advise a good stock of holovids and adderall to see us through the subsequent enacting of such a plan.


Squad of stealth bombers.

Done it a few times. Time-consuming, but it's a pretty light show if nothing else.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#93 - 2013-05-30 12:08:50 UTC
My brief only includes Condors, ma'am. Stealth Bombers would most definitely be a method that would greatly expedite the attempt - but such would detract from the values of Duty and Endurance that I wish to instill in my comrades.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2013-05-30 12:36:32 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:

Squad of stealth bombers.

Done it a few times. Time-consuming, but it's a pretty light show if nothing else.


Morwen, you know that I have always dreamed about taking you to a pretty light show. Hows about it?

Bring torpedoes of your favorite color.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Hamish Grayson
#95 - 2013-05-30 22:54:25 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
live-fire training operations

And now the Star Fraction/Kimotoro Directive parallel is utterly perfect.



Have you seen my mimetic contagion vector? I seem to have miss placed it.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#96 - 2013-05-31 13:20:29 UTC
All in all this is a bit of a disappointment.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
#97 - 2013-05-31 14:37:21 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
All in all this is a bit of a disappointment.


Just wait a bit, dear. We're preparing some...slightly exotic ships that aren't seen much just for you. Unfortunately even with capsuleer cybernetics, training times are a pain.

I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.

Destination Unreachable: the worst Wspace blog ever
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#98 - 2013-05-31 14:40:47 UTC
"Exotic ships that aren't seen much."


I get the feeling you're going to soon find out why no one flies Cruors...

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#99 - 2013-05-31 14:42:31 UTC
... So you're bringing even higher-end ships to engage a group of known frigate specialists who pretty clearly aren't going to up-ship to meet you?

Are we going to have to suffer more complaints about them not engaging you on your terms, too?

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#100 - 2013-05-31 15:01:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Halete
Streya Jormagdnir wrote:

Just wait a bit, dear. We're preparing some...slightly exotic ships that aren't seen much just for you. Unfortunately even with capsuleer cybernetics, training times are a pain.


I didn't think it was possible to make your own organization look so incompetent in one post.

You're like some kind of deranged, non-threatening comic relief villains on a child's holoseries.

'Nyah! I can't believe the robotic killer attack kittens didn't work! Who would have guessed that the Heroes would have figured out their weakness was YARN?! Quick, to the evil lair! We must go back to the drawing board!' Dramatic cape twirl.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21