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[ALXVP] War Declaration: Pyre Falcon Defence Combine

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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#41 - 2013-05-27 18:49:03 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Pyre can take care of their own, as they always have. I don't see why this warranted a thread.


Because attention and reasons.

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Katarina Musana
Clan Leshya Offworld Venture Enterprise
#42 - 2013-05-27 22:57:06 UTC
Texcoyo wrote:

Please, come and dissuade us, as we have involved in the minmatar war before and killed many slaver ships and made billions doing so. Or is it only a crime when Caldari are making copious amounts of ISK from it?

We eagerly await your insignificant war declaration.



The Federation wasn't on the verge of civil war at the time, was it? That's what amazes me most about Pyre. They'd rather sit in the Amarr-Minmatar warzone than defend their home from the Gallente Militia or deal with Heth's lunacy. Don't they claim to be Patriots?
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-05-27 23:43:50 UTC
Katarina Musana wrote:
Texcoyo wrote:

Please, come and dissuade us, as we have involved in the minmatar war before and killed many slaver ships and made billions doing so. Or is it only a crime when Caldari are making copious amounts of ISK from it?

We eagerly await your insignificant war declaration.



The Federation wasn't on the verge of civil war at the time, was it? That's what amazes me most about Pyre. They'd rather sit in the Amarr-Minmatar warzone than defend their home from the Gallente Militia or deal with Heth's lunacy. Don't they claim to be Patriots?


Questions born of ignorance. We have taken up our role where we have as a first line of defense against your less scrupulous compatriots. Don't you dare accuse us of shying away from our duty. Like Ms Riordan, If you want us removed, come and have a go.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-05-27 23:52:00 UTC
Katarina Musana wrote:
Texcoyo wrote:

Please, come and dissuade us, as we have involved in the minmatar war before and killed many slaver ships and made billions doing so. Or is it only a crime when Caldari are making copious amounts of ISK from it?

We eagerly await your insignificant war declaration.



The Federation wasn't on the verge of civil war at the time, was it? That's what amazes me most about Pyre. They'd rather sit in the Amarr-Minmatar warzone than defend their home from the Gallente Militia or deal with Heth's lunacy. Don't they claim to be Patriots?


The Caldari/Gallente warzone is often invaded by hordes of Minmatar flying small, fast ships with warp stabilizers, who try to take complexes without risk to themselves. Taking Minmatar territory forces them to stay where they belong.
Katarina Musana
Clan Leshya Offworld Venture Enterprise
#45 - 2013-05-28 00:15:06 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
Katarina Musana wrote:
Texcoyo wrote:

Please, come and dissuade us, as we have involved in the minmatar war before and killed many slaver ships and made billions doing so. Or is it only a crime when Caldari are making copious amounts of ISK from it?

We eagerly await your insignificant war declaration.



The Federation wasn't on the verge of civil war at the time, was it? That's what amazes me most about Pyre. They'd rather sit in the Amarr-Minmatar warzone than defend their home from the Gallente Militia or deal with Heth's lunacy. Don't they claim to be Patriots?


Questions born of ignorance. We have taken up our role where we have as a first line of defense against your less scrupulous compatriots. Don't you dare accuse us of shying away from our duty. Like Ms Riordan, If you want us removed, come and have a go.



Yes, because not participating in ensuring the stability of your State is doing your "duty." You clearly have no understanding of what "duty" really is.

And I've already taken down one of your pilots. The rest of you only seem interested in hiding away in stations, though, whenever I go hunting.

Vikarion wrote:
The Caldari/Gallente warzone is often invaded by hordes of Minmatar flying small, fast ships with warp stabilizers, who try to take complexes without risk to themselves. Taking Minmatar territory forces them to stay where they belong.


I'm sure that's quite worthwhile to do while they let the Gallente militia overrun your territory. Frankly, I think Pyre is simply afraid of the Gallente militia. They only have the courage to show themselves at all (which is very little, really) in our warzone because they have the Amarr there to help them try to outnumber us.
Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-05-28 14:43:37 UTC
Katarina Musana wrote:

And I've already taken down one of your pilots. The rest of you only seem interested in hiding away in stations, though, whenever I go hunting.


Really? Trotting out this sad old attempt at agitprop? I could make the same boast (complaint, whatever it is) about Electus Matari pilots. Despite you personally being awake and active on GalNet during the times that I go hunting, I have never seen you in the war zone. Have I tried to pull that argument out? Nope. I understand that there are many draws on a pilot's time besides flying.

Tiresome, really. I was hoping you'd be one of those enemies who I respect, but this is just a little too eyeroll.

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Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-05-28 17:14:27 UTC
Entirely too much discussion.

How goes the violence?

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#48 - 2013-05-28 17:18:05 UTC
Without commenting on the rest, I find it thoroughly entertaining when Matari and Gallente try to lecture Caldari on duty.

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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#49 - 2013-05-28 17:20:41 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Entirely too much discussion.

How goes the violence?



A Pyre destroyer lost at the hands of a Alexya cruiser last I checked. Not entirely the dramatic invasion some thought.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-05-28 17:26:02 UTC
The IGS has been bereft of an old-fashioned public corporate wardec for far too long. Let's hope this goes somewhere interesting, namely the bitter tears of defeat, embarrassment, and a corporate breakup of the loser.



Sabik now, Sabik forever

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#51 - 2013-05-28 17:38:41 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
A Pyre destroyer lost at the hands of a Alexya cruiser last I checked. Not entirely the dramatic invasion some thought.

That is a touch disappointing, but I believe this is the first time Alexya has been in a war. One should make allowances for these things.

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Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#52 - 2013-05-28 18:09:22 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
A Pyre destroyer lost at the hands of a Alexya cruiser last I checked. Not entirely the dramatic invasion some thought.

That is a touch disappointing, but I believe this is the first time Alexya has been in a war. One should make allowances for these things.

Perhaps if the war had come to them rather than declaring it. If you're willing to pay for the dec, the least you can do is make an effort, although Alexya seems to struggle leaving their wormhole let alone actually being competent in a fight. Props for trying I guess, but I'd put that destroyer loss down to beginner's luck.
Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-05-28 18:40:21 UTC
To their credit, they are fighting. The destroyer loss was mine, part of a probing maneuver and competently destroyed by my foe.

I've participated in wars in the past with far larger organizations that have shown up far less frequently on the battlefield. I, for one, am looking forward to continued exchanges with Alexya.

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Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-05-28 23:00:31 UTC
Well this explains all the questions about Pyre. And the hostility at my refusal.

I repeat what I said before, you don't know what you are getting yourselves into, Pyre is not some opurtunistic gas miner with a combat frigate.

I warned you.

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As strength goes.

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-05-29 00:01:49 UTC
Katarina Musana wrote:

And I've already taken down one of your pilots. The rest of you only seem interested in hiding away in stations, though, whenever I go hunting.


I would ask that after the events of tonight that you refrain from such droll posting.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#56 - 2013-05-29 00:14:21 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Well this explains all the questions about Pyre. And the hostility at my refusal.


Hostility? Refusal?

This sounds way more interesting than the whole CONCORD endorsed Alexyva-attention-whoring-shootout.

Would you be so kind to elaborate?
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Vikarion
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-05-29 00:24:31 UTC
Katarina Musana wrote:
I'm sure that's quite worthwhile to do while they let the Gallente militia overrun your territory. Frankly, I think Pyre is simply afraid of the Gallente militia. They only have the courage to show themselves at all (which is very little, really) in our warzone because they have the Amarr there to help them try to outnumber us.


If they are so worthless, then why are you so upset?
Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2013-05-29 03:01:26 UTC

I don't know who to root for.

Where de minnies at.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#59 - 2013-05-29 07:31:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
I must profess a degree of amusement at the concept that the organization that I lead is beholden to and will remit under perceived public pressure by Matari or that I should care a jot about the notions of self-entitlement that some Matari may feel that their own particular history as a people grants them free licence to conduct territorial raids into State territory and assist Federal military units while being free from any and all repercussion or consequence since it should be expected that Caldari citizens who have been injured must surrender to the supposed moral injustice of Matari enslavement. However, I do not subscribe to such a notion that simply because Minmatar may seek to play such a, "Slave card" and wax apoplectic over any issue that does not agree with them in displays of impudent, childish behaviour. My sympathies for the Minmatar end when they act against the interests of the Caldari State.

Now, that having been said I will state that the motivations behind the current deployment of the Pyre Falcon Defence Combine into the Heimatar/Bleak Lands theatre is two-fold: To conduct punitive actions against military contractors of the Tribal Liberation Force and what is in effect live-fire training operations against the aforementioned contractors. Since I have little interest in displays of bravura or am in the grip of grandiose self-delusions as affects many capsuleer commentators on this most esteemed communications medium known as the IGS, I have no fear to admit that the Pyre Falcon Defence Combine is at present a small organization which at most can perhaps field half-a-dozen capsuleer operatives at any one time and that of those, many are inexperienced rookies.

As such, present operations in Republic territories against the TLF military contractors will continue since their general skill levels as a whole are about on parity with rookies fresh out of an academy and are the perfect candidates for Pyre Falcon capsuleer agents and operatives to develop their necessary skillsets, tactical doctrines and unit cohesion in preparation for redeployment into the Placid/Black Rise theatre of operations. Indeed, I look forward to the day when I might be able to engage veteran Federalists such as the privateers of the Quantum Cats Syndicate or Justified Chaos on an equal footing, because they at least have the ability to spare me having to read empty posturing such as readily evident within this communique from the Matari of the TLF.

As for ALXVP, my congratulations on your recognizing violence as the only true and final arbiter among capsuleers. I look forward to the days ahead if you are willing and able to prosecute that violence.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-05-29 07:36:04 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
live-fire training operations

And now the Star Fraction/Kimotoro Directive parallel is utterly perfect.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.