Intergalactic Summit

Last time the shot failed in it's mission. The next round will not.

I remember Anvent Eturrer, and I remember the criticism we leveled at the Federation for the way he was executed without due process, and in a breathtakingly inhumane way.

Are we going to go down that road? Have we forgotten who we are? We're civilised human beings kirjuuni. We're not impatient psychotics champing at the bit; We're Caldari, and we have due process for these situations. Cutting corners, brutalizing the assumed guilty, allowing our passions to drive us? That's not our way, for all that the Provists have made it our way for the last five years.

If we're going to ever get that venom out of our system then we need to start with an effort of will. We need to do this RIGHT.

Are we accusing Heth of a crime? Then we arrest him and try him. If it's a capital crime, we offer him the Hak'Len Tea prior to his trial, and maybe he'll spare us all the indignity of the trial. If he does not, we will abide by and respect the ruling of the court, whatever that may be. And if we decide upon execution, then it will be done swiftly, humanely, and with discretion.

As much as I despise the man I won't see vigilante justice done in the State by a capsuleer who's letting their heart rule their head. If need be I will defend Tibus Heth's life until he stands trial, not because I want him to live, but because I want him not to be a martyr to Empyrean anger.

Enough of this "a billion ISK for his rotting corpse" paask. It's undignified, uncivilized, and selfish. There are tens of thousands of mourning families out there who have lost loved ones to Heth's crazed crusade against the Federation and every single one of them deserve to see justice done far more than do any of us capsuleers, who are merely angry at him. Work that anger off. I had to rip two sparring drones apart, meditate and have a contemplative conversation on Achuran philosophy before I started to feel calm again but here I am, and apparently I'm the only man among us who thought to try and be Caldari about this.

Calm down, get a hold of yourselves, and surrender your rage to the greater needs of the State. The State doesn't need a pack of choleric immortals on the warpath, it needs Cold Wind.

And Andreus? I would take it as a personal favour if you would stop gloating.

So very true, Mr. Stitcher. Answers, are what we require. Not emotionally controlled rage. THAT will only benefit the enemies of the State, which is probably why they are so keen on promoting such behavior.

For someone preaching self-control and moderation you're surprisingly one-sided about condemning the earlier deeds of the Executor. But you're one of those subscribing to strange conspiracy theories about the nature of the Malkalen Incident and the steps leading to the outbreak of the Executor's war, aren't you?

By all means, I agree whole-heartedly with your views regarding handling Heth-haan's deeds with due process. But if we're talking about doing it the Caldari way I suggest cutting the BS.

...what BS? What have I been doing that's so contradictory and inconsistent?

Due process has failed the Empires years ago. What good do you all think it would do now?

It is almost as though inductive reasoning is fallacious.

I am happy to endorse your position, for what little worth that has in this venue.

"Refined" and "civil" are objective terms that change with the location and time, pilot.

Consider what was refined and civil in any location a thousand years ago, if you will.

As for these news themselves, not very surprising really, but more depressing info. I still wonder how long this will go before leadership in the State changes for the better.

Well, hopefully, the better.

Desiderya was good enough to elaborate on her meaning in discussion on the Summit.

I said:



This was, in hindsight, not an unprejudiced thing to say and I accept the criticism. In my defense the statement was intended to raise awareness of the bigger picture rather than to condemn Tibus Heth, but this could have been accomplished in a more neutral way. I accept the criticism and apologise for not living up to my own standards.

Verin Hakatain-haan, I suspect this whole mess stems from that original post on the matter, as it was immediately quoted and followed with a bounty on his head. Let me be clear then:

I'm not going to try to find and kill Heth. Don't be ridiculous. I have responsibilities and far more well developed skills elsewhere, and I have no interest in playing a gun-toting ground-pounding bounty hunter against the Executor. However, I will leverage what assets I can spare towards seeing him removed from office, and yes, killed. That means you'll find me on the field of interstellar battle working towards his demise where appropriate and possible. Will I spend my ISK on seeing him dead? Yes. Will I fly my vessels against his interests? Yes. Will I stand to defend him like Verin Hakatain-haan should some other capsuleer attempt to end his life prematurely? No.

You see, Hakatain-haan, I'm not going to be doing anything different than what I have been. I'm not angry anymore, as my post quite clearly stated. I'm simply resigning myself to doing what I do best in the interests of a goal. Wherever I can, whenever I can.


EDIT: I've removed a particularly snappy retort to Verin Hakatain's post. It was uncalled for.