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Blasting through Null and kinda surprised...
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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#21 - 2013-05-24 08:32:05 UTC
There's like 10k people in delve right now doing all manner of things, it's really not anyone else's fault it you can't use the map to find people.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2013-05-24 08:37:11 UTC
When you can make just as much in high sec it no wonder null is abandoned
Danni stark
#23 - 2013-05-24 08:46:57 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
When you can make just as much in high sec it no wonder null is abandoned


true story. someone had the silly idea of letting me join their spaceguild and once i'd finished moving some ships there, i realised if i jump cloned back to high sec i'd still make more isk mostly afk without having to watch local/intel like a hawk.

i almost feel bad about it.

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-05-24 08:47:56 UTC
Gogela wrote:
...

Yah I'm in a cloaky nullified tengu, but I may as well have taken an iteron V.
...

Actually Iteron V is scary and I never mess with them, especially when they are just hanging out on a gate in low or null sec. I saw once a Ity 5 raping a Domi and since then soon as I see a Iteron 5 I run like hell. Some people have fear of spiders, some of snakes.. I fear Iteron 5.
Spurty
#25 - 2013-05-24 10:21:41 UTC
Everyone's blue in null.

No one expected to see a none blue

When they did, they didn't know what to do

I saw a mad ani stream last night of a tidi meet in delve. Perhaps go there?

There were lasers and no one brought doughnuts

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-05-24 10:28:37 UTC
You must have not passed through Provi.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
JackknifedII
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#27 - 2013-05-24 10:40:11 UTC
Once, not too long ago, I set an AP route and went afk, accidentally activating the autopilot before I left. I came back 2 hours later (enormous bowel movement fyi. There was much straining and screaming) to discover my pve fitted talos sitting on a gate in guristas 0.0 space and my scout still in highsec.

Turns out that journeys you think will be dangerous are much safer if you go afk at the same time. Who knew?

Also, go to delve. It isn't well defended.

Minmatar....we are generally unpleasant to be around....

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC81MDW6dFa41VdNTt-pTl1Q

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Ylariana
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-05-24 10:42:11 UTC
ah yes, yet more moaning about rewards in HighSec from people ignoring the OPs point about not seeing anyone in Low/Null.....

PvPers made it not just likely but almost certain that PvEing in Low/Null would get your ship popped, then moaned that people decided it was better to work out of HighSec. This resulted in L5 missions being removed from HS.

Now since the PvPers are too afraid of each other to do anything without a gang/blob behind them they want L4s moved out of HS. If they get that, it'll be L3s next.

Stop attacking every ship that moves in the space around you and maybe you will see more pilots in that space, meaning more targets.

YOU hunted your space to extinction, now YOU are moaning there is no food left to hunt ....... Brought THAT **** on yourselves. Removing L4s from HS wont change that, changing your play habits might help.

As long as you make it deadly to do anything other than PVP fit in Low/Null, people who dont actually find PVP that enjoyable will avoid that space. Removing their source of income will not change the fact that they dont want to engage in PVP, it will just reduce their enjoyment of the game.

And yes I AM posting on an alt simply because I dont like vindictive WarDecs from people who dont like any opinion that isnt the same as their own.
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-05-24 10:48:10 UTC
Gogela wrote:
FINALLY I have some time for eve after about a year... I'm shooting through null scammin' and what do I find? Nothing. A lot more nothing than I expected. No bubble camps. No patrols. Nothin'

Yah I'm in a cloaky nullified tengu, but I may as well have taken an iteron V. Every 20 jumps I find a frig or something... but even they are jumping at shadows, jumping through gates as soon as I'm in sys without even seeing what I'm in.

What happened?!

Sometimes it's luck.
I remember myself successfuly flying 20 jump in null sec going null->high on the drake after the ops some years ago, with implants, without a scout, while perfectly understanding that every warp could be a last one, and hoping for the best. It's was quite expensive pod for me, but i just wanted to return home already, whatever the cost. Big smile

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-05-24 10:53:42 UTC
Yeah, they really overhunted everything until it's rather barren in low (and null) instead of letting an ecosystem thrive, they just burn anything that moves or tries to regrow back, then complain it's boring and nothing's around. ha!

Maybe if they'd just have some d**med self-restraint and impulse control, they could get their targets wandering into low/null again to try things out or run some sites with regularity.

What did they think would happen if they behaved like wolves with absolutely no end to their stomachs or appetite and just killed everything that could be potential prey, now or even later.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#31 - 2013-05-24 10:58:35 UTC
Gogela wrote:
FINALLY I have some time for eve after about a year... I'm shooting through null scammin' and what do I find? Nothing. A lot more nothing than I expected. No bubble camps. No patrols. Nothin'

Yah I'm in a cloaky nullified tengu, but I may as well have taken an iteron V. Every 20 jumps I find a frig or something... but even they are jumping at shadows, jumping through gates as soon as I'm in sys without even seeing what I'm in.

What happened?!


Head to Venal.
Victor Dathar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#32 - 2013-05-24 10:59:41 UTC
Part of the problem is that people have it drilled into them to not fly what they cannot afford to lose which is good advice but then if you do missions in a 2b+ pimped out faction BS then yeah you are not going to take it somewhere a ~Dread Pirate~ is going to have a chance to blow it up.

With the BS changes you can make some nice mission running boats from the Typhoon for example. With the mineral changes it will be between 150-200m (so buy some before June 4th and resell them after ;) ) stick with T2 fitting and T1 rigs and scout yourself to somewhere with some agents in deep low and keep you eyes open and you will be able to run missions. Won't be as fast as doing them int he 2b+ isk pimp wagon but you will get more isk and LP so if you do some maths you might end up making more that you would.

It is the "Scout yourself" and "keep your eyes open" part that causes the problems as EVE PvE is woefully dull and so everyone wants to do it semi afk while watching Cat Videos on youtube. Isk/h is only one measure, you also need to take into account isk for amount of effort.

^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-05-24 11:08:43 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
When you can make just as much in high sec it no wonder null is abandoned


Yeah right. Parts of null are packed and on fire. You need more people like Sort Dragon to shake things up and make it fun, not pathetic little men desperate to hold on to their soul-crushingly boring and conflict eliminating empires.

It has nothing to do with the income, it has everything to do with the people.

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JackknifedII
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#34 - 2013-05-24 11:11:43 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
When you can make just as much in high sec it no wonder null is abandoned


Yeah right. Parts of null are packed and on fire. You need more people like Sort Dragon to shake things up and make it fun, not pathetic little men desperate to hold on to their soul-crushingly boring and conflict eliminating empires.

It has nothing to do with the income, it has everything to do with the people.


This is the most accurate post.

Minmatar....we are generally unpleasant to be around....

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC81MDW6dFa41VdNTt-pTl1Q

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#35 - 2013-05-24 11:17:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
Ylariana wrote:
PvPers made it not just likely but almost certain that PvEing in Low/Null would get your ship popped, then moaned that people decided it was better to work out of HighSec. This resulted in L5 missions being removed from HS.

You've never left left high sec and there are very few people in this game who aren't 'PVPers'.

Quote:
Now since the PvPers are too afraid of each other to do anything without a gang/blob behind them they want L4s moved out of HS. If they get that, it'll be L3s next.

Yeah, there is a clear correlation between blob warfare and high-sec mission running.

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Stop attacking every ship that moves in the space around you and maybe you will see more pilots in that space, meaning more targets

So wrong.

Quote:
As long as you make it deadly to do anything other than PVP fit in Low/Null, people who dont actually find PVP that enjoyable will avoid that space. Removing their source of income will not change the fact that they dont want to engage in PVP, it will just reduce their enjoyment of the game.

Then they should quit playing.

Quote:
And yes I AM posting on an alt simply because I dont like vindictive WarDecs from people who dont like any opinion that isnt the same as their own.
People don't get wardecced for posting on the forum.

I award you 1 point because I took the bait.

Oh god.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#36 - 2013-05-24 11:21:46 UTC
If you want to find people in null you have to use the map.

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Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#37 - 2013-05-24 11:24:44 UTC
Wat? Lowsec is super active these days. A year ago I was in fw. I would fly to a system 1 jump out from main PvP hubs and start plexing, as this was one of the more reliable ways to get solo fights. Usually I'd sit for over an hour bored, then roam around and still not find fights. I'd generally average 3 fights in a 4 hour span. Good pay, but boring. Eventually I stopped plexing and starting roaming all the time, as it increased my fights to 1 per hour.

These days I'm going broke because I cannot do a single plex without getting multiple fights. Sometimes 3 consecutive fights in a 15 minute span. Its ******* GLORIOUS. I'm having a blast in low. Its never been this good in low in the 3+ years I've been visiting.

But that was just one comment I had to reply to. Null is pretty lame.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#38 - 2013-05-24 11:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: War Kitten
Breaking News!

Cloaky nullified Tengu enters THE nullsec, finds no one willing to waste time chasing him.

Nothing to see here, literally.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Ryks Nalar
Doomheim
#39 - 2013-05-24 11:43:25 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Ylariana wrote:
PvPers made it not just likely but almost certain that PvEing in Low/Null would get your ship popped, then moaned that people decided it was better to work out of HighSec. This resulted in L5 missions being removed from HS.

You've never left left high sec and there are very few people in this game who aren't 'PVPers'.

I disagree. EVE being a sandbox there are a lot of peopel who lay a lot of different styles. I live in null and I spend around 40% of my time trading, 20% manufacturing and researching, 25% Mining, 10% PVE and about 5% PvP. I generally don't PvP where I can, because I just don't find it fun to do.
And overall, PvP generally costs isk, so there has to be a balance between money making and PvP, otherwise PvP wouldn't be able to happen.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#40 - 2013-05-24 11:54:11 UTC
I don't care what your playstyle is, if you undock, you're a PVPer.

Oh god.