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If all top killers/scorers are unemployed and don't have girlfriend.How can I compete with that?

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Yog Sogoth
Another Temporary corp
#1 - 2013-05-23 23:45:46 UTC
I have a job and a wife.
I will never be N1 in kill mails.

I'm not making fun of the no job part Iv'e been there but I have a job now.
Lugia3
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#2 - 2013-05-24 00:07:43 UTC
Stop posting before you dig the hole deeper.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Dock Workers
#3 - 2013-05-24 02:32:32 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
I have a wife, and a job (that I often work overtime on, I just came out of a few months of not playing even because of work) and I'm ranked #28 on BC.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=chatgris

In the last two years I've been out of game for at least 6 months, and the rest of the time I've been working and married. In that time I've moved up from ~ 300-400 in rank to under 30 (and the higher ranks take a LOT more time to advance on).
Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
#4 - 2013-05-24 02:46:05 UTC
Show up in fleets when you can and be enthusiastic/positive.
Don't be an arse or cry when you die.
Get some nice kills and treat people with respect.
Not top of the killboard? - well who cares if you're doing all the above?
Reputation by word of mouth is a lot more important than killboard stats.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#5 - 2013-05-24 02:54:42 UTC
Chatgris soaks up bc points like tampon. But his point is valid.

At least with respect to battle clinic you don't need as much time as you do cajones and fitting/piloting skill. Sitting in a blob all day may get you 100 kills but each kill might only be worth a point. Figuring out a good fit and learning to fly it so you can beat allot of the ships you see out there can earn 200 points in about 2 hours.

Sure same pilot with more time spent will be ranked higher. But that makes sense. Being in eve longer you will experience more types of pvp and learn more.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2013-05-24 04:35:54 UTC
Yog Sogoth wrote:
I have a job and a wife.
I will never be N1 in kill mails.

I'm not making fun of the no job part Iv'e been there but I have a job now.



Sound like you need a notification system to tell you where the kills are. Big smile



Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-05-24 05:59:30 UTC
Solo / small gang K/D is the only thing that matters. I don't understand why people care about anything else.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Cable Udan
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2013-05-24 06:40:10 UTC
I wasn't aware I was playing Killmails: Online.

Who gives two ***** about how they rank on a random leaderboard of internet space ships? I thought the whole point of Eve was to log in and have fun? Obviously I've been doing it wrong all this time!
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#9 - 2013-05-24 08:51:48 UTC
Yog Sogoth wrote:
I have a job and a wife.
I will never be N1 in kill mails.

I'm not making fun of the no job part Iv'e been there but I have a job now.


Accept it.

Any alliance you join will have people in it with more time to play than you have and/or are more autistic.

I work 40 hours a week but still manage to keep active and even FC fleets.

Do I get the most kills in our corp/alliance? no.

Are they happy with me? yeah.

Am I having fun? (the MAIN question you have to ask yourself). Hell yes.

What really helps is to join an alliance that uses jabber (or something similar) to "ping" ops. That way you can just pretty much literally log-in, get in a ship, undock and kill sht.

UKBigWolf
#10 - 2013-05-24 09:25:42 UTC
Cable Udan wrote:
I wasn't aware I was playing Killmails: Online.

Who gives two ***** about how they rank on a random leaderboard of internet space ships? I thought the whole point of Eve was to log in and have fun? Obviously I've been doing it wrong all this time!


This
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#11 - 2013-05-24 10:14:13 UTC
UKBigWolf wrote:
Cable Udan wrote:
I wasn't aware I was playing Killmails: Online.

Who gives two ***** about how they rank on a random leaderboard of internet space ships? I thought the whole point of Eve was to log in and have fun? Obviously I've been doing it wrong all this time!


This


Establishing a PVP history can open some doors.

My first corp had trouble finding a nullsec alliance that would accept them because of the limited number of kills.

IAC finally accepted us because we were able to show a pattern of attacking -10 in Rancer almost every day (aside from days when they docked up and sucked their collective thumbs becasue one of us suddenly showed up in local)

... and we showed a pattern of low-sec roams, active PVP, reasonably active FC's and a willingness to take the game to the next level.

That first opportunity to get into nullsec and start playing in the big leagues soon led to us being able to grow corp and attract new pilots. AAA eventually ganked us right out of Catch and back into high-sec but the seed (and the network) was planeted.

Our corp went on to join several other upstart entities in nullsec and eventually grew both in numbers and competency until we flew with Sc0rched, Dead Terrorists, SYS-K, and several CFC entities, incluiding putting everyone and everything on the front lines to fight the DRF.....

Our original corp has now all but disbanded but our guys do well. WE are FC''s and or linch-pin (and/or valued) members in Goons (etc), Raiden, Nuli, INIT and several other null-sec heavy weights. What started out as a noob corp in some bas-akwards corner of low sec with nothing to our name besides a vision and a dream has delivered content to our members beyond imagination.

and why?

Because of kill boards. At every step we took we were able to prove that what we *said* we could do could be backed up by facts.
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#12 - 2013-05-24 10:48:02 UTC
I laughed! You're right though as far as top killers being unemployed, in school or on some sort social assistance. The majority of them are. I currently work part-time for IBM but I'm able to put 4 - 6 hours a day into the game. You may also be keen on joining an alliance that has allot of large fleets out you can whore mail on or gate camp a busy system.

Probably the best thing you could do to pad your kill-board statistics is join RVB.

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ![/u]

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#13 - 2013-05-24 10:59:12 UTC
I found an hour and a Vigil hull and got a kill. Then hooked up with some mates and got a few more.

The guys I used to fly with get 15 kills a month in wormholes. I used to average 50-100 a month (including POS crap).

Sometimes, it depends on your luck and skill at trolling fights. I have it. Others do not.
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
Lost Obsession
#14 - 2013-05-24 11:09:10 UTC
Fight solo and outnumbered.
Fight solo and kill bigger ships than yours.

Abuse the BC points system until it files for divorce.
Muad 'dib
The Nine Nine
#15 - 2013-05-24 12:14:12 UTC
So a person who has less time to play to get experience to be a better pvper, cant get good enough nor do enough again because of the time restrictions?

I htink you should complain if this WAS NOT the case.

complaining it is is bloody stupid.

Guy mines more than me and gets more money than i do NO FAIR! trollololol

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.

Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-05-24 12:16:56 UTC
Find a better killboard.

By better I mean one that trys to judge your skill rather than just your number of kills.

Although I don't think theres a single KB out there that does a good job of ranking kill difficulty tbh.

2v1's score half of a solo kill on most kb while being about 90% easier to achieve.

Remeber kb ranking are a ballpark at best.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#17 - 2013-05-24 12:31:38 UTC
i have time to play EVE, all i do is to sit next to my computer and sleep in bed, i might use 4 hours average in month out of my bunker, i never leave out without escort and local officials are arranging my transportation.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Wild Geese.
#18 - 2013-05-24 13:35:37 UTC
Who cares about kill mails when you're drunk, smacking your fleet mates, and generally having a good time?
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#19 - 2013-05-24 14:06:41 UTC
Cable Udan wrote:
I wasn't aware I was playing Killmails: Online.

Who gives two ***** about how they rank on a random leaderboard of internet space ships? I thought the whole point of Eve was to log in and have fun? Obviously I've been doing it wrong all this time!



I think you are looking at this a bit too black and white. Killmails are a consequence of pvp so they add to the fun.

If it weren't for killmails the only consequences for most pvp would be isk and time spent reshipping and stocking new ships. Other than the loot you might get, these consequences tend to be negative. The Killmails are some potentially positive consequence.

Eve is a sandbox so lots of people will find different things fun. One thing I have fun with is theory crafting new fits and then testing the theory on tq. I try to design fits that will get me lots of kills of all sorts of different ships.

I then discovered that battleclinic in an imperfect way loosely tracks a persons success at doing that. So gaining ranks on battleclinic is an offhand goal that adds to the fun.

Of course the goal is to have fun. But what things do you find fun in the game? The answers are going to vary from person to person.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Julius Foederatus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-24 14:12:17 UTC
I'll give you 6/10 for the responses, even though the post was rather uninspired.
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