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How should CCP remove the new launcher?
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Khoul Ay'd
The Affiliation
#21 - 2013-05-23 18:31:27 UTC
I'm a multiboxer, have played two nights in a row and have yet to have a problem with our new launcher overlords. What is the cause of all this handwringing and whining, I just don't get it.

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Untanas Volmyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-05-23 18:58:59 UTC
This must be the fourth post I've seen hating the new launcher. Im not to worried about it. I dont play launchers. I just use them to get into the game. And if it messes with botting logic all hail the new launcher. And once again I'll mention to those having trouble with it. Try a Java update on your ENIAC's.

Murphy's Technology Law - If your not thoroughly confused. Then you were not thoroughly informed.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-05-24 05:50:31 UTC
Whats wrong with the old no laucher eve? I still cant see why eve needs a launcher at all.
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#24 - 2013-05-24 08:26:35 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Nott Patro wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:

sorry, but the new launcher will not be an issue for any bot, and in the meantime, it is crippling gameplay for all the player who have more than one account, AND those who need to switch char often.

the launchers are, whatever the game they are used with, BAD programming, a BAD solution wich, in EVERY case, bring more issues than anything

so what we want CCP to do, is get rid of this piece of crap, and let us switch toons without having to log again (is it so difficult to have a button in esc menu that bring you back to char selection screen? really?)

and if you want to get rid of bots that log in auto, put a captha, i wouldn't mind provided we can switch toons without loggin again... you would have to login each account once a day, not a big deal


I agree. Also, bots will adapt under this new launcher. You can take away my ability to use a launcher. You can add a captcha for me to complete once a day. But you do not take away the startup music.

If they don't change this, it'll be like Incarna all over again.

yeah, i agree with verything BUT the captcha, you realize often enough, bots are better at those than people? because a proper program doesnt have to actually look at the letters, just what the answer should be (if the captcha is designed shittily) but its still easy enough to bot most captchas, adn would only become annoying for real players

this depends on the captcha design, and some are resistant to any software, just a matter of design.

or a 2 time auth, with a smartphone app etc....

what i mean, is that there are no reason AT ALL we have to youse this crap of a launcher,wich creeple every capsuler, and if the reason is to prevent bot, it does nothing about it, and there are etter ways to handle the issue, and annoying (restraining myself here) your customers is not the good way

this add to the long list of "annoying" things in eve lately, insane lag because servers are overloaded, crappy launcher, crappy dustclouds, and CCP does not even dare handle thoses.

ho, i can't wait to see the pos changes in odissey, how minor they will be, i know that it will be messed up once again...

seriously CCP, it is time to wake up and listen to us, or we will remind you sooner or later that WE are the one who pay YOUR salary, we already did it, you know we can, don't push us there again!
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#25 - 2013-05-24 12:25:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Aerelius
seth Hendar wrote:
so what we want CCP to do, is get rid of this piece of crap, and let us switch toons without having to log again (is it so difficult to have a button in esc menu that bring you back to char selection screen? really?)


Oh so you want to steal my idea and post as your own? Really? Check the link in my sig if you want to support someone who had an idea and posted it for the benefit of the community or at least credit those whose idea it was and that it wasn't your idea.

EDIT:

Also, WTF is with the Launcher hate on the forums. It logs you into the GAME, it did it before, it does it now...no issue. I hated the moving splash screen and music, unnecessary and took longer to load just to Log in. I like the Launcher, patching is swifter than it's ever been but we do NEED to have the LOGOFF and LOGOFF SAFELY buttons back.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-05-24 14:42:54 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:


Also, WTF is with the Launcher hate on the forums. It logs you into the GAME, it did it before, it does it now...no issue. I hated the moving splash screen and music, unnecessary and took longer to load just to Log in. I like the Launcher, patching is swifter than it's ever been but we do NEED to have the LOGOFF and LOGOFF SAFELY buttons back.


People hate change. Especially if the change involves a perceived slowdown (whether one exists or not is immaterial, it's perception of one that matters) of their normal activities. I deal with this every day in my line of work (I'm a UI developer by trade). Moving a button to the other side of a UI will generate as much rage as removing the button altogether, if not more. I'm sure there's a Ph.D. dissertation in this somewhere.

Also, Logoff safely still exists, if you're in space, from what I have seen. It's not necessary in a station, so it doesn't display there - hey intelligent UIs that only give you the options that apply to your current situation. Who'da thunk it?

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