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CCP, when eve is getting real PvP?

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Danni stark
#21 - 2013-05-22 20:07:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Danni stark
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Not an exception to "more SP wins" formula.


yes it is.

you can't just pick and choose which situations it does and doesn't apply to just because some one proved you wrong.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#22 - 2013-05-22 20:07:25 UTC
In this thread:

OP wants gudfites with e-honor.

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rswfire
#23 - 2013-05-22 20:07:37 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:

Destiny Corrupted wrote:
You're wrong.

No.


Yes.

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Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
#24 - 2013-05-22 20:08:28 UTC
When your character gets to that age and you are still getting ganked you will realise how bad you are.

The real decider is numbers.
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#25 - 2013-05-22 20:10:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Basil Pupkin
Leper ofBacon wrote:
When your character gets to that age and you are still getting ganked you will realise how bad you are.

The real decider is numbers.


Numbers = more SP = win. Not an exception.
And I were not the gankee, I were the ganker.
It's just eve has no PvP beyond SPvsSP formula is too annoying.

Also, when I get that age, everyone would still get their SP, and my relative age would be still as low as it is now. Eve "PvP" is locked out forever for newer accounts.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Aida Nu
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-05-22 20:12:43 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Leper ofBacon wrote:
When your character gets to that age and you are still getting ganked you will realise how bad you are.

The real decider is numbers.


Numbers = more SP = win. Not an exception.
And I were not the gankee, I were the ganker.
It's just eve has no PvP beyond SPvsSP formula is too annoying.

Also, when I get that age, everyone would still get their SP, and my relative age would be still as low as it is now. Eve "PvP" is locked out forever for newer accounts.


You have no clue what you are talking about.
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#27 - 2013-05-22 20:13:58 UTC
Aida Nu wrote:
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Leper ofBacon wrote:
When your character gets to that age and you are still getting ganked you will realise how bad you are.

The real decider is numbers.


Numbers = more SP = win. Not an exception.
And I were not the gankee, I were the ganker.
It's just eve has no PvP beyond SPvsSP formula is too annoying.

Also, when I get that age, everyone would still get their SP, and my relative age would be still as low as it is now. Eve "PvP" is locked out forever for newer accounts.


You have no clue what you are talking about.


It's so simple and so annoying that you don't need a clue.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
#28 - 2013-05-22 20:15:51 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:


Numbers = more SP = win. Not an exception.
And I were not the gankee, I were the ganker.
It's just eve has no PvP beyond SPvsSP formula is too annoying.


You will never understand this game or any game.
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#29 - 2013-05-22 20:17:24 UTC
Leper ofBacon wrote:
Basil Pupkin wrote:


Numbers = more SP = win. Not an exception.
And I were not the gankee, I were the ganker.
It's just eve has no PvP beyond SPvsSP formula is too annoying.


You will never understand this game or any game.


There is nothing to understand here. "You don't have that SP heap? Lol noob, automatic defeat forever."

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2013-05-22 20:17:58 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
30 minutes into EVE and you be the guy who tackles a dreadnought.

And dies to his friends, proving my point.

baltec1 wrote:
One week into EVE and you can be in a logi ship and loved by your freinds.

Unless you mean T1 logi who's so laughable that nobody shoots him, no.

baltec1 wrote:
2 weeks into EVE and you can be the guy who just ganked a hauler with a billion in the hold.

Hauler would have ~2 hours to get some help against 2 weeks old.


And now we know you have done none of these things.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-05-22 20:21:36 UTC
It has nothing to do with SP, but rather who has the most and best ships.

That and FC's who aren't incompetent.

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Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#32 - 2013-05-22 20:24:11 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
It has nothing to do with SP, but rather who has the most and best ships.

That and FC's who aren't incompetent.


Need SP for best ships.
More pilots = more SP = naturally, win.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#33 - 2013-05-22 20:24:57 UTC
OP how about I roll a new character and train some basic skills, and we fight? You can use whatever you want.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-05-22 20:26:22 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
It has nothing to do with SP, but rather who has the most and best ships.

That and FC's who aren't incompetent.


Need SP for best ships.
More pilots = more SP = naturally, win.


Well if we are talking about collective numbers then yeah, but what the OP was saying is that pilots with the most SP win all the time.

100 day old characters in frigs can beat a 5 year old character in a battleship.

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Drachiel
Mercury LLC
#35 - 2013-05-22 20:28:26 UTC
Hohohohohohoho. No. I killed a daredevil in a tech I frigate the other day.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#36 - 2013-05-22 20:28:55 UTC
OP, show us on the doll where the naughty blob touched your ship.

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xttz
GSF Logistics and Posting Reserves
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2013-05-22 20:28:59 UTC
This thread is the best troll.

And by best I mean worst, of course.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2013-05-22 20:29:55 UTC
You are just very VERY bad in this game. This is all.

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Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#39 - 2013-05-22 20:29:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Basil Pupkin
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
It has nothing to do with SP, but rather who has the most and best ships.

That and FC's who aren't incompetent.


Need SP for best ships.
More pilots = more SP = naturally, win.


Well if we are talking about collective numbers then yeah, but what the OP was saying is that pilots with the most SP win all the time.

100 day old characters in frigs can beat a 5 year old character in a battleship.


Bring enough of them to outmass his SP, and sure, why not?

Eugene Kerner wrote:
You are just very VERY bad in this game. This is all.

Of course I am. No SP = bad. It's just hard to do anything about it.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
#40 - 2013-05-22 20:32:41 UTC  |  Edited by: CompleteFailure
OP, you have no idea how wrong you are. Check this vid from Scaurus's live stream a few nights ago:

http://www.twitch.tv/themittanidotcom/b/405319686

Scaurus is a highly experienced PVPer who has been around for quite a while. At about the 1:57:00 mark, he accepts a challenge from a corp mate of mine, Dash Ing, who merely wanted to give him a good fight for the audience, win or lose. Dash is about 3-4 moths old. This fight is a Merlin vs. an Incursus, a pretty fair 1v1 matchup.

As you see in the video, Scaurus all but has the fight locked down...but OH ****!! I BURNT OUT MY GUNS!! The fight went to Dash, who in a very Gentlemanly display, decided to let him go when he got through the Merlin's armor. Just goes to show, even experienced pilots make mistakes, and very inexperienced pilots need only take advantage to turn the tide.

Stop whining, get a clue, and HTFU.