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CCP, when eve is getting real PvP?

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LordSwift
Wrabble Wrousers
#221 - 2013-05-23 10:57:40 UTC
I have over 100mil sp and i suck. so no your argument does not hold merit. its all to do with either numbers, how well u fit your ship and skill.

Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. "

Zoe: "Shoot 'em?"

Mal: "Politely."
Ka Minatu
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#222 - 2013-05-23 11:01:54 UTC
Obvious troll is obvious :D

Btw even numbers are no valid criteria for winning, ask the 250 BS Fleet ****** up by arround 40 SBs Twisted
Bruce Kemp
Best Kept Dunked
#223 - 2013-05-23 11:13:40 UTC
Aida Nu wrote:
Whats the name of your main? So we can check out the loss that made you come here and cry?

Or are you still mad about this one?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11134460


Ah, it all becomes clear. Twisted
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#224 - 2013-05-23 11:17:11 UTC
specializing is the key.

3 alts, 3 main weapon types, 2 tank types

If you want to be amazing in every ship you need alot of sp.

to be good in one, you just need to focus!

simples!

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Le Badass
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#225 - 2013-05-23 11:21:03 UTC
At 560k SP, I took down a much older char in an, admittedly shitfit, Typhoon.
I was in a rifter.

Choosing your own fight and keeping it on your terms is much more important than SP.
Akali Kuvakei
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#226 - 2013-05-23 11:23:56 UTC
What you don't understand about pvp in this game is this. It's not about the sp as a whole. Because when you fly a ship. Your only using the sp in that ship,guns,mods,ammo,drones. Etc etc. at best most pilots are using say 5-9msp at any given time. So then pvp comes down to tactics,skill,calm under pressure and some. This defines pvp as a whole. CCP has captured pvp in its most raw and pure form, without the common pvp model most games use. I.e your theory of pvp.
Octoven
Stellar Production
#227 - 2013-05-23 11:27:36 UTC
I know characters with olny 6 mil SP that have kicked the asses of many characters 40+ mil. Its not all about SP, most of the time its situational awareness, knowing who you can and cant fight. EVE is progressive, you are rewarded in time through more points to fly better ship...the same ******* thing in every other MMO...the more time that is put into it, the better the rewards.

What you are asking for is the ability to fight a 40+ sp pvp vet in a rifter with your merlin and 3 mil sp and be able to kick his ass 40% of the time....no.

If you know the game, know your ship, your abilities, and you are aware of some limitations, then you will find pvp is very much not a broken system. If you still feel it is, sorry but you are alone in that conclusion. About 90% of eve players dont think so. Noobs have their places in the great order of fleet battles. Who the **** are you to come in 30-180 day old toon and expect to get the GOOD positions in fleet because you think its unfair otherwise. You flippin earn your way into DPS and Command positions, they arent handed out. Unfortunately that means you wil die a lot doing logi and tackle. It is the way of things and if you don't like it, perhaps EVE isnt for you.
Le Badass
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#228 - 2013-05-23 11:36:26 UTC
The only thing I, personally, feel is missing in Eve is the ability to really use the "terrain" on grid, i.e. hiding behind asteroids/stations, etc, but I'm sure there are a lot of good reasons why this is a bad idea - And most likely a whole host of bittervets who will be delighted to have an opportunity to tell me how much of a scrub/noob I am for thinking that :D
Regis Solo
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#229 - 2013-05-23 11:48:06 UTC
I try PVP but I'm abysmal at it. I'll keep trying though. Lol
Nessa Aldeen
First Among Equals
#230 - 2013-05-23 12:00:38 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
It saddens me that I wasted so much time on a game which pretends to be a PvP game, while having no PvP side whatsoever.

Eve "PvP" formula is simple as wood - more SP wins. You have an account created later than 2007-2008? Automatic defeat at every attempt of pvping.

So, my question is, when eve is getting PvP which depends on something other than pure blob of bigger SP?


RIght, I am going to assume your 100million SP is on Science and Indy and never actually pvp-ed when you had like 1million SP. I have had younger players kill me on ocassion, many less SP than I do. In groups, newbies are deadly and no matter wtf SP you have you will die.

Back in the day, my first kill was 4 mths in, and I was killing players 2 years into EVE. In conclusion, your conjecture is false and misleading.
Julius Rigel
#231 - 2013-05-23 12:02:48 UTC
50m points in frigates, and I still get bodied by some rookie in a cruiser with a point and a web who spent a week practicing actual combat.

That's why I stick to something I'm good at, like racing, rather than complaining about things that I could easily fix myself, such as learning to fight.

Do YOU like to undock?
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#232 - 2013-05-23 12:10:22 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:

Destiny Corrupted wrote:
You're wrong.

No.

Yes. :)

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#233 - 2013-05-23 12:48:40 UTC
Eve Pvp isn't about Sp. It's about who has the bigger blob, neutral reppers and Dev alts.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#234 - 2013-05-23 12:51:09 UTC
Go Home OP

Your Drunk.

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#235 - 2013-05-23 12:55:30 UTC
Le Badass wrote:
The only thing I, personally, feel is missing in Eve is the ability to really use the "terrain" on grid, i.e. hiding behind asteroids/stations, etc, but I'm sure there are a lot of good reasons why this is a bad idea - And most likely a whole host of bittervets who will be delighted to have an opportunity to tell me how much of a scrub/noob I am for thinking that :D



lol, It would make sense to have terrain affect how the game works. But unfortunately, however realistic that might be, it would make the game suffer greatly.
CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#236 - 2013-05-23 12:59:16 UTC
Don't know how this lasted so long without a lock. Oh well, all bad threads must come to an end.

Locking this for ranting/trolling.

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