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Comply Or Die Pandemic Horde 97
WhyTry1 Comply Or Die Pandemic Horde Likes received: 97	#221 - 2011-10-25 15:35:35 UTC 1 Zephyrus II wrote: The goons are destroying your ability to have fun in high sec. I don't see CSM influence here. So you miss the mittani link then?

Perkone Caldari State 52
BiaXia Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 52	#222 - 2011-10-25 16:53:01 UTC 2 There is totally a CSM link when goons destroy mining barges I saw mittens blow up a mining barge and he was all "WHAT I AM DOING TO YOU IS A CSM SANCTIONED EVENT THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF I WAS NOT THE CHAIR OF THE CSM"

Skunk Gracklaw

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

Likes received: 643

#223 - 2011-10-25 16:58:43 UTC

Big Bad Mofo wrote:

Skunk Gracklaw wrote:

Khira Kitamatsu wrote:

You're right, but all indications are you are only out for yourselves. What has the CSM done for the players of high-sec or WH space other than try to destroy our fun and ability to enjoy the game?

Name a single example of the CSM destroying your ability to have fun in highsec.

thats a trick question right?

Absolutely not. I want to see just a single example of how the CSM has destroyed anybody's ability to have fun in highsec. It should be easy considering the amount of howling going on.

Cardboard Enterprises 41
Zephyrus II Cardboard Enterprises Likes received: 41	#224 - 2011-10-26 02:25:00 UTC 2 WhyTry1 wrote: Zephyrus II wrote: The goons are destroying your ability to have fun in high sec. I don't see CSM influence here. So you miss the mittani link then? I see The Glorious Leader ganking people in high-sec as the CEO of the Goons. I don't see the Chairman of the CSM doing it.


Skunk Gracklaw Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 643	#225 - 2011-10-26 04:10:49 UTC 2 Even if the entire CSM was ganking miners in highsec it doesn't mean they are ruining the game. Ganking miners in highsec isn't against the rules.

Thredd Necro

Doomheim

Likes received: 117

#226 - 2011-10-28 20:09:34 UTC

T-Jay Charante wrote:

Vile rat wrote:

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you actually typed all that.

+1 for confirming OP's concerns.

This +1

He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which. - Douglas Adams

Lyrrashae

Hellstar Towing and Recovery

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#227 - 2011-11-01 12:50:03 UTC

Vile rat wrote:

It smells like balls around here.

Ni.

Lyrrashae

Hellstar Towing and Recovery

Likes received: 449

#228 - 2011-11-01 12:53:40 UTC

T-Jay Charante wrote:

Vile rat wrote:

+1 for confirming OP's concerns.

"Give 'em enough rope..." All the easier when the ones you're looking to give the rope to are so pathetically predictable and easily-lead: This is supposed to be the "elite?" Thank you, not for me...

Ni.

Lyrrashae

Hellstar Towing and Recovery

Likes received: 449

#229 - 2011-11-01 12:55:57 UTC

White Tree wrote:

Rocky Deadshot wrote:

It would be nice to see CCP move into more open and 2way talk with the CSM through video conferences on perhaps a monthly basis.

We talk to CCP on a daily basis, not monthly or weekly.

So that means you spend that much more time being the joke everyone knows you are?

Not something I'd look to pad the CV with, mate, but I suppose it takes all kinds...

Internet spaceships: SRS BZNS!

Ni.

Balanaz Mining and Development Inc. 538
Mortis vonShadow Balanaz Mining and Development Inc. Likes received: 538	#230 - 2011-11-01 13:02:59 UTC 1 Lyrrasha wrote: So that means you spend that much more time being the joke everyone knows you are? No, it means the CSM and CCP get to spend more time laughing at you. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. And some days, you're just a man with a gun.


Lyrrashae Hellstar Towing and Recovery Likes received: 449	#231 - 2011-11-01 13:08:47 UTC Bring Stabity wrote: I love transparently corrupt electoral mechanisms that leverage apathy Fixed that for ya, mate. Ni.

Lyrrashae

Hellstar Towing and Recovery

Likes received: 449

#232 - 2011-11-01 13:21:13 UTC

The Mittani wrote:

As I relaxed in the aftermath of a time-dilated fight where supercaps didn't rule the day and lag didn't determine the outcome, I browsed a rack of podkills with implants, spun my recently rebalanced hybrid-gunned ship, and typed off a poorly-thought-out ragepost about how the CSM was irrelevant, because I'm literally a big babby who has no idea what he's talking about.

I then went off to enjoy a bunch of new spaceship-related content that CCP produced after they finally acknowledged that focusing on FiS instead of WiS was the right thing to do!

And we should all bow to you, because you are the sole architect of this turn-around, and deserve all the credit you're so subtly trying to slurp up in this, and umpty-eight other threads.

Get real, get over yourself, and get the **** out, you pompous, deluded man-child.

Vile Rat and a few others on this incarnation of CSM have earned a certain respect from me, but you are the embodiment of everything that's wrong with the CSM, and nullsec.

**** off!

Ni.

Lyrrashae

Hellstar Towing and Recovery

Likes received: 449

#233 - 2011-11-01 13:38:32 UTC

The Mittani wrote:

Hratli Smirks wrote:

basically Avon I'm saying you were a member of a group of cheaters so you would not recognize moral or ethical distinctions hth

I feel some vague sympathy for Avon, since Goonswarm has kicked him around the galaxy for four+ years without respite. But it's a shame that he's taking his misplaced rage on behalf of BoB and trying to spite the CSM as an institution, merely because he and his lot were torn apart by a gaggle of newbies in rifters.

You could always come after us again, Avon. It's worked out so well for you and yours in the past. Fifth time's a charm?

But do leave the CSM out of it.

This is why you are such an odious little creature.

Small-minded, arrogant little kid-ult twerp using the background of 120 people getting their livelihoods destroyed to e-peen stroke over 4-5 year-old rivalries in a video-game.

What a small, empty, vicious little bag of shite you are.

Please die soon.

Ni.


Lyrrashae Hellstar Towing and Recovery Likes received: 449	#234 - 2011-11-01 13:44:04 UTC Avon wrote: Yeah, that's how this thread went down. I'm sure people are totally unable to check if your revisionist version matches the posts. ^^This. You do realise, though, that you're trying to argue. On an Internet forum. Against Goons. Talking about pointless! Ni.

Lyrrashae

Hellstar Towing and Recovery

Likes received: 449

#235 - 2011-11-01 14:51:31 UTC | Edited by: Lyrrashae

Mortis vonShadow wrote:

Lyrrasha wrote:

So that means you spend that much more time being the joke everyone knows you are?

No, it means the CSM and CCP get to spend more time laughing at you.

If CCP laughing at me in some way leads to a better product/service--that I pay for--then I'll happily be the lampshade-on-head guy forever more, because I truly do love EVE that much. Often despite CCP, not because of it.

The CSM and/or their brazenly obvious fanboiz/sock-puppets laughing at me, on the other hand, is quite perfectly meaningless, as, despite their hilarious attempts to whore all credit for CCP's recent turn-around, the CSM is irrelevant.

And all this pathetically desperate credit-whoring of late tells me that they know this.

They've (arguably) served their purpose, now it's time to call an actual mechanic instead of the local SnapOn Tools dealer, as this old banger needs more help to keep from throwing a rod through the block than the latter is willing/able to provide.

TL/DR:

I don't deny that the CSM has been useful now, and in the past--I'm probably willing to cut them a lot more slack in that regard than most, actually--but their usefulness to the playerbase as a whole is--quite obviously IMHO--reaching its' end. And I find their death-throes...amusing.*

*Schadenfreude: It's my anti-drug!

EDIT: Sleep-deprived grammar- and clarity-fail, as I don't brain good in the morning.

Ni.

Mortis vonShadow

Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.

Likes received: 538

#236 - 2011-11-01 17:13:09 UTC

Lyrrashae wrote:

Several things:

First off the Mittani didn't say HE got these changes implamented. He admits it was the work of the entire CSM.

Secondly, since he is the leader of the Goons, he has to be a pompous deluded man-child.

And lastly, when you start cursing others over the internet on a forum, it makes you look small and belittles your arguement.

Do us all a favor and use facts in this debate, not raw emotion.

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. And some days, you're just a man with a gun.

Mortis vonShadow

Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.

Likes received: 538

#237 - 2011-11-01 17:21:44 UTC

Lyrrashae wrote:

Please die soon.

You do realize that a player was recently banned for stalking the Mittani in and out of game, right?

This phrase right here, with the recent events that have happened as of late, probably not the brightest of remarks.

I understand your frustration and the like at the CSM in general, and the Mittani and Goons specifically, but again, you are a bigger person than this. And degrading your debate down to this level leaves you no room to be take seriously any longer.

The Mittani isn't your enemy. CCP's bad business decisions are. CCP is back tracking to insure your gaming experience is going to get better, so, relax, sit back and give it time. CCP is coming around.

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. And some days, you're just a man with a gun.

Parsec Seti

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 29

#238 - 2011-11-01 23:53:23 UTC

Mortis vonShadow wrote:

[quote=Lyrrashae]

You do realize that a player was recently banned for stalking the Mittani in and out of game, right?

This phrase right here, with the recent events that have happened as of late, probably not the brightest of remarks.

I'm surprised that there is not more of this, given the nature of this game and the amount of schadenfreude here.

"Welcome to you're doom!"

Viziam Amarr Empire 2,561
Ladie Harlot Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 2,561	#239 - 2011-11-02 10:25:22 UTC Lyrrashae wrote: The CSM and/or their brazenly obvious fanboiz/sock-puppets laughing at me, on the other hand, is quite perfectly meaningless For something that's meaningless you seem p mad about it. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.