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Amarr and Missiles
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#1 - 2013-05-21 18:44:56 UTC
Hi fellow space friends,

I am currently in the process of getting my missile skills up to par and I have a question for my missile spewing brethren. Being Amarr what support skills would benefit me the most? I am at the moment taking Rockets, Heavy Assault Missiles and Torpedo's to level 5 and their specializations to 4. After that I am kind of lost, is it me or is the missile support skill tree broken and confusing? For example will I benefit from training Target Navigation Prediction and Guided Missile Precision if I am only using rockets, hams and torps? If it helps I will be flying all Khanid ships and any ship in the Amarr T1/T2/T3 lineup that takes advantage of this weapon platform. Any advice and questions are welcome and encouraged!

Thanks in advance,

Aral

Oderint Dum Metuant
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2013-05-21 19:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Roughly in order of importance (debatable, eg. I consider range > damage with long-range missiles, especially for rookies):

  • Target Navigation Prediction: Increases the explosion velocity of all missiles. More damage to moving ships.
  • Guided Missile Precision: Decreases the explosion radius of all missiles. More damage to smaller signature ships. Very important for short-range missiles which have a larger explosion radius than long-range missiles, but helpful for both.

  • Missile Launcher Operation: Increase rate of fire (DPS) by reducing the cycle time.
  • Rapid Launch: Increase rate of fire (DPS) by reducing the cycle time.

  • Missile Projection: Increases missile range by increasing missile velocity. With delayed damage, velocity is more important than flight time, but both are still helpful with short range missiles.
  • Missile Bombardment: Increases missile range by increasing missile flight time.

  • Warhead Upgrades: Increases Missile damage (less so than the above skills).

Don't train: Defender Missiles. Completely useless.

Consider training: Auto-targeting Missiles. Useful only if you carry them, and don't want to be limited by your targeting capabilities (if ECM jammed, damped / or want to hit a target outside your targeting range). They always seek the closest valid target.

Torps & Bombs are useful to train for a Bomber, and you already have the other missile support skills anyways. Bomb Deployment > 1 is required for the non-damage bombs, and level 4 covers them all.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#3 - 2013-05-22 06:47:52 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Roughly in order of importance (debatable, eg. I consider range > damage with long-range missiles, especially for rookies):

  • Target Navigation Prediction: Increases the explosion velocity of all missiles. More damage to moving ships.
  • Guided Missile Precision: Decreases the explosion radius of all missiles. More damage to smaller signature ships. Very important for short-range missiles which have a larger explosion radius than long-range missiles, but helpful for both.

  • Missile Launcher Operation: Increase rate of fire (DPS) by reducing the cycle time.
  • Rapid Launch: Increase rate of fire (DPS) by reducing the cycle time.

  • Missile Projection: Increases missile range by increasing missile velocity. With delayed damage, velocity is more important than flight time, but both are still helpful with short range missiles.
  • Missile Bombardment: Increases missile range by increasing missile flight time.

  • Warhead Upgrades: Increases Missile damage (less so than the above skills).

Don't train: Defender Missiles. Completely useless.

Consider training: Auto-targeting Missiles. Useful only if you carry them, and don't want to be limited by your targeting capabilities (if ECM jammed, damped / or want to hit a target outside your targeting range). They always seek the closest valid target.

Torps & Bombs are useful to train for a Bomber, and you already have the other missile support skills anyways. Bomb Deployment > 1 is required for the non-damage bombs, and level 4 covers them all.



Great post. I am going to steal this and post it for my newbie carebears.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#4 - 2013-05-24 22:30:02 UTC
Nice post Tau Cabalander, good information there. I guess what I am trying to figure out is what support skills do not affect Rockets, HAM's and Torp's. I have heard there are some that only affect guided missiles and I want to avoid training something I will never have a need for.

Oderint Dum Metuant
Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#5 - 2013-05-24 23:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Aralieus wrote:
Nice post Tau Cabalander, good information there. I guess what I am trying to figure out is what support skills do not affect Rockets, HAM's and Torp's. I have heard there are some that only affect guided missiles and I want to avoid training something I will never have a need for.

Read my post above again. Note that I stated "all missiles".

That was once the case for Guided Missile Precision -- all short-range missiles like HAM, rockets, and torpedoes are unguided -- but CCP changed it so that ALL missiles are affected. Same applies for Rigor rigs, which previously also only affected guided missiles. Note that both affect explosion radius.

Retribution 1.0 Patch Notes wrote:
Skills
* The Guided Precision skill has been changed to affect all missiles.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-retribution-1