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The Apostle
Doomheim
#61 - 2011-10-21 06:45:48 UTC
Sofia Bellard wrote:
White Tree is still butt hurt about the anom nerf? Get over it noob!

White Tree. A noob? lol.

EVERYONE was hurt by the anom nerf. That's what the topic is about Sofia... Cool

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The Apostle
Doomheim
#62 - 2011-10-21 06:52:48 UTC
Vastek Non wrote:
A lot of those quotes on the 40m + per hour are related to low sec pirate L4's and in specific systems and circumstances I have seen claims of higher (several hundred mill per hour).

It is possible to get high isk doing L4's with main in a decent semi afk BS (Domi/Rattlesnake/HAC) and a alt salvaging, if you include Bounties, salvage, loot and LP, however its a mind numbingly bad way to earn isk compared to a decent LS L5 or Null sanctum etc Ugh

tbh I wasn't aware that lowsec L4's paid any better than higshec L4's. Is this correct?

Even then, it's not going to be 100's m/hour? L5's can make some very serious coin but for mine, that's often riskier than hanging your ass out in a Rorqual in the centre of G^^n space Shocked

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#63 - 2011-10-21 07:20:30 UTC
Level 4 missioning isn't measured in bounty cycles so the isk/h is an average of the money you get after 2 to 3 days. Running 4 hours of missions for 3 days will get me 900.000.000,00 isk so thats an average of 75m ISK per hour after all the work is done. Like the OP said, the proper way to run missions is farming LP which means more often than not you will simply blitz through the missions without bothering to salvage at all, unless its a faction mission in which case the tags will be usefull for the LP store.

So yes it is quite possible to make over 2b in one week with nothing but lvl 4 high-sec missions, playing only 4 hours per day. The gold is there, just don't insult me by asking how to get to it.

Do your own homework =)

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Vastek Non
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2011-10-21 08:01:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Vastek Non
The Apostle wrote:
Vastek Non wrote:
A lot of those quotes on the 40m + per hour are related to low sec pirate L4's and in specific systems and circumstances I have seen claims of higher (several hundred mill per hour).

It is possible to get high isk doing L4's with main in a decent semi afk BS (Domi/Rattlesnake/HAC) and a alt salvaging, if you include Bounties, salvage, loot and LP, however its a mind numbingly bad way to earn isk compared to a decent LS L5 or Null sanctum etc Ugh

tbh I wasn't aware that lowsec L4's paid any better than higshec L4's. Is this correct?

Even then, it's not going to be 100's m/hour? L5's can make some very serious coin but for mine, that's often riskier than hanging your ass out in a Rorqual in the centre of G^^n space Shocked


The LP payout is based directly on security status of the system as it always has been (even post agent buff/nerf whatever it was). Thus a 0.6 L4 pays significantly less than a 0.5 and so on.
The bounties of course remain the same, though the mission reward changes, however this is basically the least important part in the equation.

LP store items really need to be chosen carefully however as there is so many more LP floating around recently.

The reference to the 100+ million per hour i'm a little dubious about myself. The constricting set of missions and circumstances are so onerous that it really couldn't be counted on regularly. If I recall correctly it was some guy doing Blood Raiders L4's in a T3 in a specific lowsec sytem etc etc.

Edit: and yes, what the above poster said. You really should understand how mission payouts work if you have done that many Shocked
Sashaaa
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#65 - 2011-10-21 08:10:30 UTC
White Tree wrote:
- 1.) Some alliances will immediately start wanting to look for better space

Nope.


- 2.) In the longer run, there'll be more conflicts going on, with more localized goals

Nope.


- 3.) Newer alliances will have an easier time getting a foothold in nullsec

Hahahahahaha no.


- 4.) Coalitions will be marginally less stable

Nope.


- 5.) Alliances will have to choose more carefully what space they develop, where their staging systems are, and so on (low truesec systems generally tend to be in strategically inconvenient places)

Nope.



The worrying, but completely unsurprising part of all this is that everyone who plays this game could see this a mile away, apart from CCP.

They were told time and time again, but ignored everyone. But, hey the "new" CCP listens apparently, so everything will now be fine.................
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#66 - 2011-10-21 08:24:53 UTC
If ice mining is moved to 0.0 only and especially if PI gets boosted in 0.0 this might compensate for the loss of decent anomalies and be good for DUST514.
The problem now is that either a system is useless or it is profitable. There is no middle ground, no reason to live in 0.0 if you cannot take one of the few profitable systems. The completely deserted Providence region is a sad testimony to this.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#67 - 2011-10-21 08:25:11 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Level 4 missioning isn't measured in bounty cycles so the isk/h is an average of the money you get after 2 to 3 days. Running 4 hours of missions for 3 days will get me 900.000.000,00 isk so thats an average of 75m ISK per hour after all the work is done. Like the OP said, the proper way to run missions is farming LP which means more often than not you will simply blitz through the missions without bothering to salvage at all, unless its a faction mission in which case the tags will be usefull for the LP store.

So yes it is quite possible to make over 2b in one week with nothing but lvl 4 high-sec missions, playing only 4 hours per day. The gold is there, just don't insult me by asking how to get to it.

Do your own homework =)


see, this is how you troll
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#68 - 2011-10-21 10:10:28 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
One thing is clear. Between Dominions release and the Anom nerf Nullsec was more populated and had more conflicts then ever before. Whys that? Because individual pilots where able to fund themselves much better and not necessary have to rely on corp/alliance reimbursements. What happened after the nerf? Stagnation and a mass exodus of null.

For half a year to a year after Dominion the general consensus was that 0.0 pvp is dead due to unpredictable lag making battles a toin coss.

Your post smells of revisionist history.


It wasn't dead it was just large fleet battle that where horrible. Lag after Dominion did make fleet battles horrible, however it was still heavily populated and large fleet battles still attempted to be done. Remember some of the largest fleet battles in null happened between Dominion and the nerf, which would obviously mean there was more people out in null and more willing to fight. Granted people will argue about blobs, but thats not the point here.

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