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DED Complex Changes
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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#61 - 2013-05-27 18:47:50 UTC
Rob Crowley wrote:
Roime wrote:
Hisec is the tutorial area

No, it's not. It's actually the place where the majority of the game happens. But of course you know this, every post of you in this thread has a strong scent of trolling.


It's the only acceptable justification for limiting player behaviour in a sandbox.

Majority of the game, by what measure? NPC kills? Fights? Player interaction?

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Rob Crowley
State War Academy
#62 - 2013-05-27 19:01:29 UTC
Roime wrote:
Rob Crowley wrote:
Roime wrote:
Hisec is the tutorial area
No, it's not. It's actually the place where the majority of the game happens.
It's the only acceptable justification for limiting player behaviour in a sandbox.
Well, then I guess Eve is either not a sandbox or not acceptable for you.

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Majority of the game, by what measure? NPC kills? Fights? Player interaction?
Player activity or player interaction. You can pick which one you prefer, in both cases hisec is on top of the list.
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
#63 - 2013-05-27 19:58:42 UTC
Roime wrote:
It's the only acceptable justification for limiting player behaviour in a sandbox.


Player behaviour is limited in all parts of Eve by the game design framework. That makes Eve either not a sandbox by your definition or the whole of it is a big tutorial area.
Harry S Plinkett
Doomheim
#64 - 2013-05-28 13:27:54 UTC
An exploration themed expansion, where the best tool for the job is disallowed from participating in the promoted activity! Yea... no, really don't see this happening. I can imagine a "scumbag dev" type meme generated promptly for this situation though!

On a related note, CCP ought to hurry up and complete the ship and weapon platform rebalancing stuff as soon as they possibly can. Currently, it's anyone's guess which "fan favorite" ship or weapon will be nerfed. Nobody likes seeing their favorite type of "avatar" nerfed in MMOs. In EVE the dissatisfaction is even more acute than other MMOs, of course. When the going gets tough, you can't just roll a new class/type/char, and level it to maximum in a week or so. You either set yourself a year long plan, and specialize at a job, or you end up a picture of mediocrity. However, an even worse scenario is when you train for a year (in this case into Tech3s, their weapon systems, their defensive and support skills) only to find them unavailable for the job. Now imagine a year old pilot, who trained exclusively for a HML Exploration Tengu... This seems to me as a perfect recipe for unsubbing.

Der Rest
State War Academy
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-05-28 19:48:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Der Rest
Firtst time i heard about the next expansion i was all "oh yeah finally something for the explorers"
The more i see from it the more i'm dissapointed.

-DSP Removed
-easy mode scanning (why not removing probes entirely?)
-lame hacking minigame
-My fellow T3 gets useless.
I can still use a hac or pirate cruiser which will do the job just fine - the next thing people will complain about.
(QQ too much HAC's and pirate cruiser in my DED Sites!!!!111 plox nerf!!!!111)

Well we will see what goes live and what will be changed till the release.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#66 - 2013-05-28 20:12:20 UTC
Rob Crowley wrote:
]Well, then I guess Eve is either not a sandbox or not acceptable for you.


EVE with hisec as it is is not a pure sandbox.

Quote:
]Player activity or player interaction. You can pick which one you prefer, in both cases hisec is on top of the list.


Statistics disagree with you.

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Der Rest
State War Academy
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-05-28 20:18:06 UTC
Roime wrote:
Rob Crowley wrote:
]Well, then I guess Eve is either not a sandbox or not acceptable for you.


EVE with hisec as it is is not a pure sandbox.

Quote:
]Player activity or player interaction. You can pick which one you prefer, in both cases hisec is on top of the list.


Statistics disagree with you.



This thread is not about peoples definition of sandbox.
Please troll elsewhere, thanks and have a nice day.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#68 - 2013-05-29 06:16:28 UTC
This thread is about people's definition of sandbox.

Please play armchair moderator in some other thread, thanks and have a nice day.

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2013-05-29 11:18:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Omnathious Deninard
The thread is about ded complex changes as was started to find out if it only applied to 3/10 and 4/10.
If transformed somehow into a definition of a sandbox thread.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Ling Gong Chen
ALL THE LONELY PEOPLE
#70 - 2013-05-29 20:45:33 UTC
why are you people still wasting time and strength trying to convince that Roime guy how he think about the the game?
you think you can change his mind?
he believes that he is smarter than any of us and he thinks all those people stay in high sec are nothing but noobs and idiots. As long as he stays in low sec or null sec he will be the better man. That's what he think he is.
why do you believe yourselves could change the arrogance of someone like this?
Ling Gong Chen
ALL THE LONELY PEOPLE
#71 - 2013-05-30 21:08:04 UTC
Johan Toralen wrote:


Just for your info i found a nullsec system with 4 anomalies and 27 signatures on Sisi. Something feels off tho. Not a single profession site in the last two hours. Only gas and combat sites.


Such a miracle I guess you must have take a screenshot.
27? You sure?
Amakish
Snipes Incorporated UK
#72 - 2013-06-05 14:17:15 UTC
this needs CCP response

would be nice to have them explain to me atleast WTF tehy were thinking....

who in their right mind you get a T3 and rush into low or null?