Wormholes

Hey guys,

I keep watching videos from these guys who do videos who are complete ass at scanning and have no idea what they're doing.

Has any of the wormhole brethren had a chance to pop over to SiSi and check out the scanning overlay?

Specifically:
1) are the signal strengths comparative to our measuring system for dropping a combat/deep space to differentiate signatures?
2) In systems that are heavily anomaly populated (Read c3->NS or c2-> NS/C5s) does it lag out the overview?
3) Does it completely prevent us from launching configurations that are anything but the absolute perfect 7 probe setup?
4) When the sensor overlay is scanning, does it put any of the signatures into the list on the scanner window?

Thanks,

Svodola Darkfury.

1. Yes
2. No lag noticed. Largely useless however since it can only be accessed from space (read cluttered)
3. You can adjust probes how you want after launch. There was Dev talk in the feedback thread about bringing back the8th probe and one at a time launching
4. No

Yea I gave up trying to keep on top of both threadnaughts. I said my peace in both. I tested and got familiar with scanning on Sisi. And resigned myself to the fact that very little is likely to change before Odyssey is released (not much time left).

TYVM sir, very informative

You can still use dsp guide to find the sig you are looking for. The Sig strength shows up next to the ID in space. Hopefully swift and bitter does not shut down their dsp guide, it will still be useful.

My feeling:
Scanning is faster and easier now. Probes seem to insta move, so combat scanning is easier. With the overlay, you can assume where the sigs are, so you can start with 8AU scan at the appropiate planet. Would be nice, if you would be able to filter the overlay for only sigs or anos.

Scanning on Sisi is still a WIP, much has changed in the last few weeks, so it's not really sensible to draw any conclusions yet.

For example they linked the visual display to the sig list in the scanner window now (which they intended to abolish initially, horrible idea!). But there are a few problems, like the scan results strong enough to give a dot or a ring not automatically selected after a scan. This would be terrible if released, but I'm pretty sure it's just a bug that will be fixed.

The initial system scan shows the percentages we know as the sig sizes (2.5% for a data site, 10% for a K162 etc.), so it's the same as a DSP for signature scanning.

While scanning is faster, it will also be even easier for pve players to spot new wormholes the moment they appear. So they can warp out before you even complete jumping into their system. For example, until recently I used two combat ships for c3 ratting and didn't have a slot to spare to fit a probe launcher. So I was always at risk that a new wormhole was opened which I could not detect. Now I don't need a probe launcher fitted, I will always see the new sig and can warp out and investigate it before continuing.

In fact, it's better than a DSP since you don't have to map from DSP returns to actual band readings.

Copy-pasta from the siglist works now, too.

There is one lingering issue I found though, and that's the pinpointing formation. With 7 probes loaded, you have to manually adjust probes to get the pinpointing formation about right, since the out-of-box formation winds up looking a little lopsided without its eigth probe. HOWEVER: AIUI, the pentagonal bipyramidal formation that CCP chose as the default pinpointing formation is nowhere near the optimum formation to use for 8-probe scanning. This could use some serious improvement.

Yep pretty much.

Good to see you back Trinkets

The only thing I did not like about the overlay was the fact that both Sigs and Anoms show up on the overlay out in space without launching a probe. Because Anoms can be scanned and found without probes I think that part is a good feature. I however don't think the Sigs should show up on the overlay unless scanned with a probe first.


~edit~
Ok I was on the test server tonight checking things out. The overlay shows both sigs and anoms now along with on the overlay. My friends and I closed a high sec wormhole to see how quickly the overlay updated. We have found that it does not update instantly. however it does update fast enough where it would make a difference when sitting and waiting for someone to warp from a POS. They see a new sig pop up and they know they need to look into a new WH.

(For the thread OP)
I was in a C2 with a static C4 and high sec. and the overlay lets you know what WH is what. High sec was 10% the C4 was 4% so yes it can work like the DSP.

Also atm you can't use your analyse button without probes. So when you change ships your list of anoms go away. We also found out scan probes no longer pick up anoms. If you want your list of anoms back you must re-log or leave system and come back. Which if you are living out of a POS that can be an issue if you want a list of anoms to go by.

June 4th scanning stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck5x5bXQE6w