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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#61 - 2013-05-20 11:30:01 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:

It seems that there is no Command Ship buff coming in Odyssey.





Correct.

And good thing, too, since it would probably involve a minigame.

I think we are going to have to do a burn Jita, but this time in opposition to the proliferation of mini games as opposed to micro transactions.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#62 - 2013-05-20 11:36:07 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Posting to confirm that all successful military forces put their top leaders in shiny vehicles and send them to the front lines during actual combat operations.


General Dannat used to fly to the front line in Afghanistan bumming tabs off squaddies in a chinook to see the lads off.

Prince Harry flew in an Apachi in his second tour of afghan.

Prince Andrew flew a Linx in the Falklands war.

Admiral Sir John Jellicoe was on HMS Iron Duke at the battle of Jutland.

Lord Nelson was in the heart of the battle of Trafalgar on HMS Victory.

Yes, and Alexander the Great bravely charged an elephant despite being so Irish that he literally sweats Guinness.

Look, exceptions to a rule don't invalidate the rule. And the rule here is that you don't put your top military leaders and command and control systems within earshot of the enemy firing line.

Also, since when are British royalty brats the top leaders of anything?

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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#63 - 2013-05-20 11:40:00 UTC
Usually troops do get a moral boost from being led from the front line. Now if Eve implemented morale effects for spaceships, perhaps spaceships would feel bolstered if their leader was fighting next to them, then the on grid argument would be appropriate. But from a purely tactical and intelligence point of view, there is little reason why commanders need to be on the actual field of battle if they can observe everything from afar.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#64 - 2013-05-20 11:40:32 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Posting to confirm that all successful military forces put their top leaders in shiny vehicles and send them to the front lines during actual combat operations.


General Dannat used to fly to the front line in Afghanistan bumming tabs off squaddies in a chinook to see the lads off.

Prince Harry flew in an Apachi in his second tour of afghan.

Prince Andrew flew a Linx in the Falklands war.

Admiral Sir John Jellicoe was on HMS Iron Duke at the battle of Jutland.

Lord Nelson was in the heart of the battle of Trafalgar on HMS Victory.


So you don't have any examples of actual commanding happening in the heart of a battle more recent than...1916?

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#65 - 2013-05-20 11:42:44 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:

It seems that there is no Command Ship buff coming in Odyssey.





Correct.

And good thing, too, since it would probably involve a minigame.


I remember CCP Soundwave mentioning something about Candy Crush recently.

Perhaps the fleet window would turn into a grid and the booster in the CS has to drag 3 Minmatar ships into a line to give them boosts? Then drag 4 Caldari ships in a line to get a super shield boost. And then match that with another super boost to doomsday everything in a 10k radius!

(Maybe a little too far...)

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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#66 - 2013-05-20 11:46:19 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:

It seems that there is no Command Ship buff coming in Odyssey.





Correct.

And good thing, too, since it would probably involve a minigame.


I remember CCP Soundwave mentioning something about Candy Crush recently.

Perhaps the fleet window would turn into a grid and the booster in the CS has to drag 3 Minmatar ships into a line to give them boosts? Then drag 4 Caldari ships in a line to get a super shield boost. And then match that with another super boost to doomsday everything in a 10k radius!

(Maybe a little too far...)

When the command link is activated, then a spray of cans are released in the vicinity of the target boosted ship. The target boosted ship has to open as many as possible and the more they manage to open before the expire will mean they get more of a boost.

I think that would work and would be fun gameplay mechanics. :)
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#67 - 2013-05-20 11:47:24 UTC
I never asked for this.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Othran
Route One
#68 - 2013-05-20 11:53:24 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Posting to confirm that all successful military forces put their top leaders in shiny vehicles and send them to the front lines during actual combat operations.


General Dannat used to fly to the front line in Afghanistan bumming tabs off squaddies in a chinook to see the lads off.

Prince Harry flew in an Apachi in his second tour of afghan.

Prince Andrew flew a Linx in the Falklands war.

Admiral Sir John Jellicoe was on HMS Iron Duke at the battle of Jutland.

Lord Nelson was in the heart of the battle of Trafalgar on HMS Victory.


So you don't have any examples of actual commanding happening in the heart of a battle more recent than...1916?



Calling what happened at Jutland "actual commanding" is stretching credulity Blink

Oh and as far as the "royals" go, if anyone wants them then you can have them. We got hundreds of the parasites Roll
Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#69 - 2013-05-20 12:03:55 UTC
When they eventually get to rebalancing command ships, I reeeeeeeeeeeally hope they buff the Nighthawk so it doesn't feel like a 200+ million isk Drake.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#70 - 2013-05-20 12:47:25 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Posting to confirm that all successful military forces put their top leaders in shiny vehicles and send them to the front lines during actual combat operations.


General Dannat used to fly to the front line in Afghanistan bumming tabs off squaddies in a chinook to see the lads off.

Prince Harry flew in an Apachi in his second tour of afghan.

Prince Andrew flew a Linx in the Falklands war.

Admiral Sir John Jellicoe was on HMS Iron Duke at the battle of Jutland.

Lord Nelson was in the heart of the battle of Trafalgar on HMS Victory.


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Lord Ryan
True Xero
#71 - 2013-05-20 12:49:54 UTC
Probably a nerf coming.

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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#72 - 2013-05-20 13:36:56 UTC
Last i heard command ship rebalance (the ships, not on grid links) is to come in the first point release after summer xpack.

What I would like to see is a reduction in the number of turrets/launchers across the class and a 75% to 100% role dmg bonus to turrets/launchers similar to what marauders have. This would enable similar levels of dps while also freeing up highs for Links to be used on grid in combat fits. I'd also like to see all commands normalized at "fleet commands" t2 resistances rather than the "field commands".

Chances are we will also see their base hp values increased to levels beyond that found in their tech1 hulls. Currently a Brutix has higher base hp values than an astarte which is rather out of place in the t1 to t2 progression. I would not be surprised if the commands have 10-15% more base hp than their t1 counterparts.
Invisusira
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#73 - 2013-05-20 13:51:46 UTC
Had a fantastic FC that led small-ish (10-30) Oracle fleets from his probing, boosting Damnation. He never lost it, despite sometimes being jumped by fleets twice our size. Not saying anything on rule vs exception, just saying.

Also, ibf "cva lol," but he's one of the best FCs I've ever had the pleasure of serving under.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-05-20 14:01:06 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I see no reason why they shouldn't reverse that change (that's not true, I actually see a lot of reasons).


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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#75 - 2013-05-20 14:12:59 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:

It seems that there is no Command Ship buff coming in Odyssey.





Correct.

And good thing, too, since it would probably involve a minigame.


LOL, gotta love CCP´s "clever" ideas ... NOT! X

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#76 - 2013-05-20 14:29:07 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

Yes, and Alexander the Great bravely charged an elephant despite being so Irish that he literally sweats Guinness.

Look, exceptions to a rule don't invalidate the rule. And the rule here is that you don't put your top military leaders and command and control systems within earshot of the enemy firing line.

Also, since when are British royalty brats the top leaders of anything?


The queen is head of the military...

Also Every single fleet the UK has every sent to war has had its admirals in the fleet on the front line. Every single army has had it command go with it. You cant command these forces in a battle from London.
Draqone an'Alreigh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2013-05-20 14:33:33 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
What are they going to do, make boosting non-corp-members give you a suspect flag?

Oh, ****.


Quite fun... i suggested a slightly more detailed version of that not long ago and the feedback was generally positive. Blink

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#78 - 2013-05-20 14:41:23 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


So you don't have any examples of actual commanding happening in the heart of a battle more recent than...1916?



Rear-Admiral J. 'Sandy' Woodward was in charge of the carrier battlegroup in the Falklands war in 1982.
Nerva Auris
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-05-20 14:51:53 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Posting to confirm that all successful military forces put their top leaders in shiny vehicles and send them to the front lines during actual combat operations.


Posting to confirm that all successful military forces consist of people living inside goo-filled eggs that take flash copies of their minds when they die and activate them in a new clone so they can get back into their spaceships and fly across the galaxy to blow stuff up.
Othran
Route One
#80 - 2013-05-20 16:49:30 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Also Every single fleet the UK has every sent to war has had its admirals in the fleet on the front line. Every single army has had it command go with it. You cant command these forces in a battle from London.


Ummm Northwood. AKA The Hole. You can indeed command a battle from London, even in 1982.

Also we have dozens of admirals and bugger all ships these days - in fact I think the last time we had less admirals than ships was the 1960s Blink

Gods, well OT again Oops