EVE New Citizens Q&A

Didn't read everyone's reply, so I'm sorry if some of the stuff is repeated.


Welcome to New Eden. Park all your themepark MMO experience at the door, forget whatever expectations you may have based on your past experiences, they don't matter in EVE.


The good thing about EVE is its sandbox nature. Play the way you want, not how someone tells you to. If you don't like what someone is telling you, or forcing you to play, be prepared to fight for your way of life and defend it. That or join them and see what the other side of the fence looks like!

BTW, they're called corps, not guilds/clans in EVE. Your 'required' attendance is dependant on the type of people you play with (as a side note, joining a player corp is highly recommended and will change your gaming experience). 0.0/nullsec corps may have 'Call To Arms' (CTA) from time to time, or make certain OPs mandatory, but apart from that, most other corps are pretty chilled. Lowsec PVP corps in general do not impose play times on their members, unless its defending some critical corp assets, and hey, if you had a part in contributing to that asset, you'd want to defend it too, right?

Your schedule is fine, just remember to stick long skills on since they train in real time, even when you're offline.


This is the most important bit. There will almost never be someone who's done it all in EVE. Everything is a learning process, and part of the fun is exploring your various options, finding something you enjoy doing, and finding out how to do it better/more efficiently. There are also various guides on the internet out there, but some may be outdated.

Re: grinding. Grinding is NOT required in this game. Grinding is a fairly brainless way of making ISK, requiring almost no effort beyond getting a setup to run level 4 missions. However, since you train skills in real time, you do not need to grind for those and will figure out your optimal way of making ISK ingame.



There is a certain 'gap' between newbros and vets. BUT, that gap exists not so much in terms of skillpoints, but in player skills, experience and knowledge. Older players may have more SP and it may seem impossible to 'catch up', but there are only so many levels you can train in a skill, and only so many skills that apply to a particular ship/fit. At the end of the day, using PVP as an example, RL skill/experience/knowledge >>> SP. A new character with 3-4 days training SHOULD be able to kill a trained character PROVIDED the trained character does not have equal skill in using his ships. That being said, there are a lot of skilled PVPers in this game, and a lot of skilled frigate pilots, so don't be discouraged if you lose your first few fights. Heck, I'm primarily a t2 cruiser pilot, and get my ass whooped in 1v1 frigate combat against players with less SP than me on a regular basis, just because I don't fly frigates as much.

Some freebies cos I'm bored at work, so yeah, here are some of the cardinal rules of EVE:
1. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, because you WILL lose it sooner or later.
2. Everyone is out to get you.
3. If you bring your QQ to the forums, be prepared to be ridiculed. General discussion is a cesspit of trolls and flamers, with the odd diamond in the rough.
4. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
5. If it looks to good to be true, it most likely IS too good to be true.
6. Don'y fly what you can't afford to lose.
7. Someone, somewhere is plotting your demise, make sure you get them first!

And finally, the most important rule in EVE, in case you missed it: DON'T FLY WHAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE

Fly safe (or dangerous) o/

Yes. As your SP ticks even when you are logged off, you will not be left behind in character skills. What you lose in isk is proportional roughly to your gaming time, so only need to support yourself for that, too.


Use "corporation", not "guild", and you immediately look like you belong and know your stuff. And requirements depend entirely on corporation. There are corporations that require certain hours or other contributions. Then there are those (like mine), who stress "RL > EVE" and will never impose any mandatory duties on you.


In EVE: do not grind. The only thing you need to make in game, somehow, is ISK (money). There are no missions or tasks you need to do if you do not want to. For ISK-making, there are many different ways. Find a way that is fun for you and leave those that feel like grinding to people who actually enjoy them.


There is a gap, but it is way smaller than in most games. I am a 10-year veteran and I regularly fly in fleets with people just out of their trials, and neither of us feels out of place. Obviously, in a 1-on-1 fight I'd kick their ass, but they can still help me bring down a hostile. Between myself and someone who has played a couple of years, I find that there is not much difference in something we both have invested in. My bigger amount of SP & experience mostly shows in that I can do more various things well.

Elsebeth

I love threads like this, simply because it's so good to see new players asking really smart questions, other newer players talking about how much they love EvE so far, and older players being really helpful too.

Can you play on 10 hours? Yes. You will be at a disadvantage to 40 hour players in some ways (they will have more in-game resources and more ability to dominate regional markets than you, and will be more capable of avoiding certain types of losses if you find your way into nullsec space).

Player behaviour. This is what makes EVE so much fun. EVERYONE in the game is a rival, an opponent. Sometimes you will make alliances with players, but that alliance lasts only as long as all of the allied parties feel that the alliance is worth more to them than what they would gain from betraying it. YOU CAN SHOOT YOUR CORPMATES (GUILDIES) AT ANY TIME in this game, ransom their beloved ships, or just clean out the 'guild bank' if they let you have access to it, and this leads to a lot of interesting gameplay dynamics. 'Just how much do I trust the new corpmate iPod Blues?'

The journey is the goal as has been said.

New players can do 1-2 things very well quickly. The veteran can do dozens. (Example: I can fly Gallente cruisers and frigates well and Gallente battlecruisers and battleships acceptably, as well as being able to manufacture tech 2 modules. A veteran with 100m SP might be as good at me at flying those ships, and also able to fly an Amarr Carrier, Amarr Dreadnought, Amarr Heavy Interdictor and also manufacture tech 3 ships.

But player skill is the main factor in engagements. I've seen characters with a day's skill training devastate entire corporations, and I've personally solo killed people with many more SP than me by setting traps for them that they just did not anticipate. Likewise I've suffered losses to much less skilled pilots too that have caught me off guard somehow.


The core rules of EVE:

1. Never undock in a ship you cannot afford to lose
2. Never trust anyone ingame unless you can punch them in the face in real life
3. Never log into the game drunk
4. If it sounds too good to be true, it's a scam. If it doesn't look like a scam to you, it's a scam you do not understand. If it doesn't look like a scam to someone that's not you, it's a great opportunity you should copy and use.

Rather than starting an entirely new thread, I just wanted to jump in and say thanks for all the comments. I had similar questions and many of the points brought up herein have been useful in clarifying or learning things I was unsure of or didn't know. Still a long way to go I feel, and occasionally feels more like work than fun, but it's still (so far) highly enjoyable anyway after my short two days of playing about... (along with some previous trials a year or two ago).

hey pilot, and welcome on board!

Most are covered by more experienced players. I'd like to add some things from my very little experience.

if you have just 10 hours/week:

a) a good decision would be to train Planetary Interaction (PI). If you manage to have the skills needed to create P3 products (do not take too much learning time) , you will need 1day/week to collect the products and sell them for money (ISK). Not crazy money btw, but quite enough to feed your 10 hours of playing. All this PI thing may be greek to you right now, but watch some youtube videos and it will become clear.

b) "focus training". Dont go here and there, a little of everything and good at nothing. I for example, focused on Blockade Runners training and PI. With this combo I will be able to safe transfer things from low sec to the market. Now I;m finishing this and I will focus in frigate pvp skills.


But remember, it is just an advice. You have to follow your heart.

They say that the first axiom in eve is "dont fly something you cannot afford to lose". Right.

My first rule in eve however is "Do whatever please you the most, whatever gives you joy!".

It is just a game after all... a very deep and nice one...

Thats my 2 cents.