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The Hero that High Sec Deserves: aka: You guys really want to hit Goons back? I can help.

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Xystance
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-10-20 06:05:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Xystance
I've been getting tired of null sec, it's boring, all the same ****, but I realized it's really the people that are the problem.

Scammers, Miner Ganking, none of this means ****, it's all about the people and to be honest, I can't associate with these scrubs anymore. The problem is, who else is there? There's low sec where they think they know what they're doing but play by the "rules" of gate guns and aggression, and there's high sec where there really isn't any real combat.

Listening to all of you plot to destroy goons by getting a few battleships is hilarious, but sad. You can't just form a fleet of a few hundred, or even a few fleets of a THOUSAND and expect to fight a single 50 person well FC'd Goonfleet. They have tightly run communications, they have solid fleet compositions built from logistics, recons, and battlecruisers / battleships all running the same tank, the same guns, the same formations, and fcs with warpins and warpouts the likes of which you've never even conceived of. "

IF you read that last paragraph and are dumbfounded then you realize what I mean, You all have "played" eve, but you haven't learned how to -PLAY- eve.

I'm here to help.
I was the military director of Test Alliance Please Ignore for half a year, and their lead FC for longer.
Here's my kill record: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Xystance

I'd like to see if there's interest in forming a new corp and potentially a new alliance based off the following principles:

1) No one knows everything, but everyone can be taught something
2) Honor and loyalty don't exist in this game, common interest and common goals do, and we have a common goal: The fall of Goonswarm once and for all
3) To play the game the way you want, you must fight for that right.


I propose an organization with experienced and battle-tested fleet commanders at the top, teaching everyone how to fly, how to enjoy the game, and how to fight when there are no rules, how to leave the cradle of high sec and step into the wilderness than is null security space and hit them where it hurts.

What do they care about? Sovereignty, ratting, building capitals, moon mining, killing "pubbies" and harvesting their tears.
Once properly organized and trained we can deny them all these things.

So, fellow Eve citizens, X up and tell me if you're ready to learn how to -really- play this game, Eve Online, X up and tell me you're willing to fly cheap and effectively, tell me you're willing to standardize your fits and fly under a unified fleet command structure, tell me you're willing to dock your hulks and your Navy Ravens and your Tengus and step into -real- combat ships, Tell me you're ready to REALLY enjoy this game and MAKE THE GOONS PAY

X UP HERE and if there's enough interest, I'll just have to start training corporation skills. :)

Vote Dovinian for CSM 7. http://i.imgur.com/XxcuR.jpg www.dovibus.com

Herp McDerpinstan
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2011-10-20 06:09:13 UTC
XEST Alliance best alliance.
Crite Momaki
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-10-20 06:09:46 UTC
how can i get into your corporation? the goons have dried my wallet for the last time
Aleksei Zukov
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
United Federation of Conifers
#4 - 2011-10-20 06:11:00 UTC
Getting in on the ground floor. I want in!
Feky Deji
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-10-20 06:13:49 UTC
SIGN ME UP!! At least you sound competent enough to actually get the goons where it hurts TwistedTwistedTwistedTwisted
Ryan Renholder
Beyond the Sun
#6 - 2011-10-20 06:13:59 UTC
X I'm down I'm tired of these goons!
Morinth Tsoni
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-20 06:15:57 UTC
How will this work? I've only been to low sec in frigates to see how stuff goes down but nothing bigger than that.
Etirc Itonula
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-10-20 06:16:12 UTC
X X X X they won't even see it coming Shocked
Awox Blueshooter
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2011-10-20 06:19:32 UTC
Uhhhh... guys he's in test alliance please ignore and they're goonies bff's. i kno that there are a lot of people who hate the goonies and the only way we can keep eve alive is for high sec to join togehter like they do in null sec. but this guy is just trolling to make u die.
Aleksei Zukov
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
United Federation of Conifers
#10 - 2011-10-20 06:23:42 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Awox Blueshooter wrote:
Uhhhh... guys he's in test alliance please ignore and they're goonies bff's. i kno that there are a lot of people who hate the goonies and the only way we can keep eve alive is for high sec to join togehter like they do in null sec. but this guy is just trolling to make u die.


No, we're disenfranchised with TEST. It's full of *snip* Please do not use profanity on the forums. Spitfire. We're frankly sick of the bigotry and think they should get a taste of their own medicine.
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2011-10-20 06:29:29 UTC
Really, Xystance? Do you honestly believe that you can "sky marshal" some huge high-sec campaign against Goonswarm? The sole reason 99% of dedicated high-sec residents stay in high-sec is because they cannot accept authority. They will question your experience, your authority and ultimately tear your campaign down unwittingly. If you're going to sincerely attempt to unite a bunch of carebears who cannot agree on a fleet doctrine with the goal of destroying Goonswarm because of some petty grudge from the past, good luck - you might succeed where Fintroll failed, but it's highly unlikely.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

ArcanixPR
El Diablo en Camones
#12 - 2011-10-20 06:31:14 UTC
Aleksei Zukov wrote:
Awox Blueshooter wrote:
Uhhhh... guys he's in test alliance please ignore and they're goonies bff's. i kno that there are a lot of people who hate the goonies and the only way we can keep eve alive is for high sec to join togehter like they do in null sec. but this guy is just trolling to make u die.


No, we're disenfranchised with TEST. It's full of ass wipes who do nothing but grief and call people faggots and niggers. We're frankly sick of the bigotry and think they should get a taste of their own medicine.


Also getting sick and tired of Sniggs in our space.
Xystance
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-10-20 06:36:39 UTC
Awox Blueshooter wrote:
Uhhhh... guys he's in test alliance please ignore and they're goonies bff's. i kno that there are a lot of people who hate the goonies and the only way we can keep eve alive is for high sec to join togehter like they do in null sec. but this guy is just trolling to make u die.


Hey, like I said.
I'm in TEST right now, and TEST and Goons -are- BFFs.
But I'm tired of playing the same old game, I'll admit... I see a little appeal to going into high sec and killing hulks and macs and industrials, tears are a valuable commodity... but behind all those ships (well, most) and those tears are people, people who don't -have to take it and can fight back. Why is it so much fun? EASY TARGETS, you're never going to be able to deal with it that way, As much as you're in high sec and "protected", you need to learn that they've gamed the rules. High sec is not safe, low sec is ... well it's ********.

Null sec is literally the safest place you can play when you're in a group because you control everything. IF you fail, you didn't have enough people, or enough organization, or what it takes. High sec and low sec are all about gaming the game.


So, that's why I propose training us up from scratch and hitting them in null sec.

Vote Dovinian for CSM 7. http://i.imgur.com/XxcuR.jpg www.dovibus.com

Xystance
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-10-20 06:38:58 UTC
Andski wrote:
Really, Xystance? Do you honestly believe that you can "sky marshal" some huge high-sec campaign against Goonswarm? The sole reason 99% of dedicated high-sec residents stay in high-sec is because they cannot accept authority. They will question your experience, your authority and ultimately tear your campaign down unwittingly. If you're going to sincerely attempt to unite a bunch of carebears who cannot agree on a fleet doctrine with the goal of destroying Goonswarm because of some petty grudge from the past, good luck - you might succeed where Fintroll failed, but it's highly unlikely.


That's a fair point.

I'm not looking to tell people how to play the game, but if they want to keep getting instapopped by a sensor boosted artillery tempest on the undock of a station while flying in a Tengu with a 0% EM resist, them be my guest.

IF you want a fighting chance of fighting back, hitting them where it hurts, maybe not succeeding, but at least ENJOYING THE GAME and enjoying your time, and not feeling helpless... then this is what it's all about.


I don't have a grudge against Goonswarm, but I see an opportunity to bring a whole new group of people into the REAL game, and hey... why -not- the Goons, they're the ones causing all the trouble. :)

Vote Dovinian for CSM 7. http://i.imgur.com/XxcuR.jpg www.dovibus.com

Takashi Kaeda
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-10-20 06:44:00 UTC
This sounds like an interesting opportunity.

We are going to need some battleships with cruiser support. The hard part is going to be finding battleship pilots who aren't in nullsec. Maybe we could do a few mining ops to pay for some mercs to support us.
Awox Blueshooter
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2011-10-20 06:44:08 UTC
we can't trust goonies until you prove you mean what you say. when you have a corp and start teaching us how to fight and have training IN HIGHSEC then maybe ppl should listen to you. right now i think this is just another one of the goons scam. are u going to front up and start a corp IN HIGHSEC so we can see your not full of s**t?
Awox Blueshooter
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-10-20 06:45:10 UTC
takashi i know lots of mission runners who can fly battleships and have way more awesome stuff than what you see on goonies kill boards
Aleksei Zukov
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
United Federation of Conifers
#18 - 2011-10-20 06:49:22 UTC
Awox Blueshooter wrote:
takashi i know lots of mission runners who can fly battleships and have way more awesome stuff than what you see on goonies kill boards


http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=164856

Couldn't resist.

But no seriously, we're working on creating the corp as we speak. We will be dropping corp soon.
Xystance
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-10-20 06:50:44 UTC
Awox Blueshooter wrote:
we can't trust goonies until you prove you mean what you say. when you have a corp and start teaching us how to fight and have training IN HIGHSEC then maybe ppl should listen to you. right now i think this is just another one of the goons scam. are u going to front up and start a corp IN HIGHSEC so we can see your not full of s**t?


Hey.

Did I say "give me 500m to get you into corp woooololol"? Or do cyno your carrier into my pos / station / whatever? I didn't ask for anything other than a sign of interest. If I have 20 people interested this isn't going to go anywhere... 100+, now you're talking, because 20 people isn't going to do the job. 100 and you've got momentum and a potential to cause real problems.

Vote Dovinian for CSM 7. http://i.imgur.com/XxcuR.jpg www.dovibus.com

ItsmeHcK1
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2011-10-20 06:53:19 UTC
Sounds legit.
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