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THE CAREBEARIANS
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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#141 - 2013-05-21 16:39:01 UTC
ian papabear wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
When I was in null sec, our policy was that when a roam came into our area, we'd dock up and not fight.

Many people would whine... why do we let these people just roam through our area and not do anything about it.


The answer is, because we don't want them here.

Counter intuitive at first, but you have to look at secondary effects. WHY were people roaming through the area? Because they wanted fights. How do we make them go somewhere else? By making sure they don't get fights here.

Go out and fight them, sure, maybe you can win and send them home in pods or clone activations.... but they are just going to come right back.

Don't give then fights is the MUCH, MUCH more effective means of dealing with unwanted roaming gangs.



Same goes for how carebears should deal with the PvPers. Just make sure they don't get kills.



sounds like you were in CVA.

but yeah ive been in the fleet roaming , not fighting is a direct counter to pvp


There is a difference between avoiding a fight because doing so is just using a strategic tool and avoiding a fight because losing a video game space ship will hurt my feelings lol. One is the smart thing to do, the other demonstrates a need to subscribe to Hello kitti online......
Ankh
Doomheim
#142 - 2013-05-21 16:44:23 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
I say it's time for all carebears to gather all recources and invade that null sec space, clean out all gate campers, rats and whatever else we find... lets loot their ships destroy their bases, fight the biggest war ever in new eden

we do this carebear style in such an overwhelming force that nobody of us will be hurt, and out of all those wrecks we leave behind CCP can create a monument to honor our victorious play style

let me know who's in and we plan this biggest mobilisation in EVEs history

edit: join my channel SpaceJunkys there we talk about the details


And I say it's also time for all nullseccers to gather all resources and invade hi-sec space, clean up all the hi-sec belts of Veldspar, scordite and whatever else we can find... lets steal their mins destroy their belts, fight the biggest trade war ever in new eden.

We also do this at the same time as all the carebears do the above suggested nullsec incursion, giving them nothing to shoot at.... so they can mine the Gneiss and spod instead.

I like this spacejunky idea. Roll

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ian papabear
No Regard.
#143 - 2013-05-21 16:52:40 UTC
Ankh wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
I say it's time for all carebears to gather all recources and invade that null sec space, clean out all gate campers, rats and whatever else we find... lets loot their ships destroy their bases, fight the biggest war ever in new eden

we do this carebear style in such an overwhelming force that nobody of us will be hurt, and out of all those wrecks we leave behind CCP can create a monument to honor our victorious play style

let me know who's in and we plan this biggest mobilisation in EVEs history

edit: join my channel SpaceJunkys there we talk about the details


And I say it's also time for all nullseccers to gather all resources and invade hi-sec space, clean up all the hi-sec belts of Veldspar, scordite and whatever else we can find... lets steal their mins destroy their belts, fight the biggest trade war ever in new eden.

We also do this at the same time as all the carebears do the above suggested nullsec incursion, giving them nothing to shoot at.... so they can mine the Gneiss and spod instead.

I like this spacejunky idea. Roll


yeah its all fun and games till you see prices spike up again

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#144 - 2013-05-21 18:37:43 UTC
ian papabear wrote:
ill fight with you brother!

anyone who knows me, knows that I am one of the biggest carebears in nullsec. lets do this ish.


oh finally! :D thats what I'm waiting for please bring your friends! :D

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#145 - 2013-05-21 18:45:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Vera Algaert wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

who wanted to do this in the pastt? :D need to know the name, let me know...


I'm not going to wade through months or years of threads to find it. But one thing I don't think anything came of the ones before so good luck.

actually, a 0.0 alliance came from it

(Xystance took a break from TEST to do this sort of thing - The Hero that High Sec Deserves - the resulting alliance The 99 Percent eventually ended up as a TEST pet and then merged with The Aurora Shadow to create Tribal Band which now owns Period Basis.)
Whoa wait...I'm in a highbear alliance!?

That's pretty cool actually Bear

Harry Forever wrote:
Sidrat Flush wrote:
Is this an empire ceo I see actually creating content?

Please ensure you tell everyone how to set up their overview and pick a direction.

The trick is to do everything so fast they don't realise that they are actually on a pvp roam until after they've just fired on another player that didn't give permission in advance.


seems you null sec people do not have anything to do except writing bad about high sec people in forums, must be pretty boring in your region... and instead of beeing excited that I bring some life to your system you are against it all, I wonder why?
I think you misunderstand Sidrat. He sounds genuinely intrigued (though skeptical) and is offering you advice that might actually be good. I don't personally feel that tricking people onto a pvp roam is good, because they really should be prepped with adrenaline as much as they are with practice and tactics, but you probably could amass larger numbers that way.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#146 - 2013-05-21 18:49:28 UTC
Hehe...this idea again.

Of course, the null seccers will gladly say 'Come and get us,' knowing that Highbears can't fight anywhere near to where they can.

The thing is, Highbears don't *have* to fight. All they have to do is afk Cloak grief. And do it to every single system in null sec.

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#147 - 2013-05-21 19:12:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:


yea it just tiredsome to read all the stuff like carebears can not do this, carebear can not do that, we did hear it a thousand times until now, just want to move on and get some people together, this discussion should not endup telling me what carebears can do and what not, I will show you what they will do, I want to act not just talk like most commentators here

you by the way seem to be helpful why not join me in my chat when you got the time and we talk some more... -> SpaceJunkys

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Ahvram
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#148 - 2013-05-21 19:15:13 UTC
Andski wrote:
if you want to actually put overwhelming force into nullsec you'll need FCs, tight fleet compositions, a logistics crew to drop POS, keep them fueled and deal with sov structures, a proper chain of command and, most importantly, pilots

it's a bit more complicated than running a mission, it seems



Sounds like you would need the incursion community (Real high sec combat pilots). Sadly most of them are Null pilots who would jump down to be on the null side Lol
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#149 - 2013-05-23 12:12:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Fernando MRuiz wrote:
I'm still curious as to what a 'carebear style' invasion of nullsec would be like. I just keep picturing a bunch of exhumers trying to take out ganker ships with strip miners and their own explosions.


not more will be needed, look at the star map man, no fights in null sec, i hardly believe they find the fire button when we arrive

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Joxxy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2013-05-23 12:28:34 UTC
+1

I fully endorse this idea.

We should all go and invade 0.0.

With combat Iterons and Hulks of DOOM !
Gordon Esil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#151 - 2013-05-23 12:38:42 UTC
I got my noob miner ready and an empty jump clone on standby!

Say when and where and I'll come with tackling procurer LolTwisted
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#152 - 2013-05-23 14:02:09 UTC
This idea reminds me of shooting fish in a barrel with a rocket launcher...
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#153 - 2013-05-23 16:07:54 UTC
Joxxy wrote:
+1

I fully endorse this idea.

We should all go and invade 0.0.

With combat Iterons and Hulks of DOOM !


exactly!! venture of death incoming too! :DD

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#154 - 2013-05-23 16:10:26 UTC
Gordon Esil wrote:
I got my noob miner ready and an empty jump clone on standby!

Say when and where and I'll come with tackling procurer LolTwisted


thats what i want to hear! :DD already thought about a venture fleet as well, maybe we should do a run and mine infront of their bases :DD but we still need some more! I keep you posted!

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#155 - 2013-05-23 19:07:38 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
we do this carebear style


Which means the first 2 weeks of the campaign will be dedicated to begging 95% of the Carebear Coalition how to download Teamspeak and get on it while logged in?

Not today spaghetti.
Totalrx
NA No Assholes
#156 - 2013-05-23 19:20:34 UTC
OP has obviously never in his game life tried to build up and much less organize a fleet in high sec.

If he had, then he would not have started this thread.
JamnOne
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#157 - 2013-05-23 19:21:31 UTC
This would have been a great idea if they didn't nerf the crap out of the Hulk. You could still have one mining laser going while attacking.Bear
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#158 - 2013-05-23 19:30:59 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
I say it's time for all carebears to gather all recources and invade that null sec space, clean out all gate campers, rats and whatever else we find... lets loot their ships destroy their bases, fight the biggest war ever in new eden

we do this carebear style in such an overwhelming force that nobody of us will be hurt, and out of all those wrecks we leave behind CCP can create a monument to honor our victorious play style

let me know who's in and we plan this biggest mobilisation in EVEs history


The problem with this is that is requires the skill "ballsack" to be trained to at least one, most floks in high sec haven't gotten around to it yet....

What you

What you need is the skill plexiglassautomy….that’s where a part of your stomach is replaced with plexi glass so like normal when you have your head up your rear end you can see where you are going.
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#159 - 2013-05-23 20:37:18 UTC
We will await patiently. I suggest skipping lowsec however, since the local pirates may just kill every single one of you before we can.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#160 - 2013-05-23 20:45:33 UTC
Totalrx wrote:
OP has obviously never in his game life tried to build up and much less organize a fleet in high sec.

If he had, then he would not have started this thread.


did you see all this in your crystal ball right?

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm