Intergalactic Summit

You are a colossal moron, perhaps the most stupid capsuleer I've ever seen. They will make shrines to that cavernous, empty thing you call a head someday as a warning to future generations what to strive to avoid.

Every comment you make, every. single word. is an insult to all of humanity that struggled to evolve and make it out of the primordial soup. "We fought and suffered and strived, invented tools and weapons and civilization for this? For this pathetic excuse for a human being to make up anything she wants and declare random, baseless, stupid things to millions of viewers?

How exactly did you ever pass flight school? How do you make it out of your bed chamber in the morning without a team of assistants reminding you how to put on your pants and shoes? Do you have mental advisers tutor you in cutting and chewing food for each meal?

We can cross solar systems in seconds, transmit our consciousness across space, travel through wormholes, unleash devastating destruction with our very thoughts, and yet all you have is pessimism about quaint physical diseases.

I'll say again, go ask any imperial Holder who has been alive for 500 or 600 years in their original bodies how their cancer is doing, or once again maybe turn on the huge and powerful shields on every single ship you fly if you'd like to avoid background radiation, you dolt.

Regarding genetic data retention and decay,

My genome is kept in a secure distributed databank in a binary file. When I have a new clone made, they print out a new seed genome, run a transcription check, and then duplicate it before passing it along to the retroviral injection tech. Occasionally they will do a screening of my genome with a genetic disorder database to see if I match any newly discovered links. Checksums and CRCs are used to ensure that my genome maintains stability in the face of transcription errors while kept in storage.

Am I the only one that has their genome kept digitally? I can't even fathom the idea of my genetic composition being kept in a little rack of test tubes in a freezer somewhere. Is that common?

Backup clones, you ignorant fool. It's what a system restore point is to anti-virus software. What's more, anyone can use it, not just capsuleers. What, do you think we can only become cloned in a single way?

That's why I brought up memory loss. You don't lose memories when you're pod killed, but you do lose memories when you use baseliner cloning technology (from the moment you scan your brain onward).

Seriously, it's pretty arrogant of you to think that you need some special implant in your head to come back to life. How did you even become a capsuleer without learning about cloning? Are you that daft? Read up, egger, cloning isn't just for people bathing in pod goo, or for people with sleeper implants in their heads. In fact, most clone soldiers don't even have sleeper implants anymore. It causes mental problems, you know? The empires had to make their own after the Amarr's first batch ended up a failure.

I really think that some people haven't quite grasped the idea that we have all but mastered the art of looking at, reading, and resetting genetics.

The folly of the Jovians was that they ignored the last part of this, having fooled themselves into thinking that they had mastered the one part of genetic engineering that we are, so far, smart enough to realize we haven't mastered.

We don't know, entirely, what changing one line of genetic code will do to the rest of the biological program.

The Jovians, being brilliant and idiotic at the same time, assumed that they had figured it all out, and didn't bother to keep backups of themselves pre-change. Why would they, when the old them was utterly obsolete and about to replaced with a much superior version.

This even worked, for X number of years. They made changes with no major or severe consequences, but the intended results. It was only when small errors built up that they realized they no longer had the ability to go back to zero.

I surmise that it was around this time in their history that they gave out the Pod technology to the Caldari, probably in a last, desperate chance to continue to spin the wheel. Congratulations, genetic experiments, but you failed to produce meaningful results, and now the Jovians are dead and gone, and we are all the inheretors of their mistake.

What is the moral of this story?

Never, ever do something that you can't find an undo button in the menu for.

Alright, I was wrong, I admit. You do not have to call me a colossal moron and all kinds of other insults to get your point through. And if you really insist on knowing where I got my capsuleer training, the answer is nowhere. You'll have to figure out the rest by yourself.

I was speaking to Katran Luftschreck. Unless there's some fail split personality ridiculousness going on.

To be fair, Tiberious, it's not as though there are no examples of apparently-diseased civilizations tucking themselves away in order to preserve their lives. If the Jove are (or were, if your theory is correct) anywhere as advanced as the Sleepers, they could have simply taken similar actions as the Sleepers and gone into cryostasis. Couldn't they still be alive, if this were to be the case?

Felsusguy is correct. Capsuleers buy back up clones and have their memory/personality stored digitally.



Danak isn't a capsuleer.



Lady Vitalia wasn't addressing you.

Plenty of capsuleers do not keep soft clones. Plenty have had their legacy ended because they were killed outside the capsule without a "backup."



Any disease or damage that affects the neural map will transfer, as the cloning process copies and replicates the neural map.

Of course, this is irrelevant as long as the disease is curable by modern science.

I deliberately did not name any specific disease. The point has nothing to do with 'cancer'. It was that there are diseases that capsuleers can potentially contract that are not curable by a simple "restart" cloning, and that could end that capsuleer's legacy. Any damage that affects your mind will be copied over. And that will accumulate over every subsequent cloning.

That was the point miss Luftshreck was making. Cancer was simply one example, if a flawed one.

Cloning is not even a 100% guaranteed process. It is 99.7% chance. That is a 0.3% chance on every clone that the process fails and your legacy is abruptly ended. Even a soft clone scan may be done improperly, which you will not know until it fails to activate, or activates in a braindead state.

Capsuleers are not invincible.