Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm not going to tell you to biomass yourself for not searching before posting the exact same idea that's been posted before, but you might want to biomass yourself for not searching before posting the exact same idea that's been posted before.

Generally speaking, everyone/almost everyone in Features & Ideas agrees that wardecs shouldn't be so easy to avoid.

Get over it.

This post made me think of AFK Cloaking threads.

This sounds to be stupid loophole in wardeck system and should fixed. If you can so easily avoid wardeck.wardeck really lose its purpose. Also I believe that the suggestion of the original poster was reasonable.

+1 bump.
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A real warrior does not seek out defenseless cowards.

Thanks for admitting that you are just as pathetic as your prey.

There is a lot of truth in the above.

War deccing a small industrial/research/manufacturing corp is just damn pathetic. You have players that are mostly specialized in things like mining, manufacturing, and research (isn't that shocking). Maybe some skills for hauling. They might have some skills for missions that have some overlap with PvP, but since they don't PvP they have less understanding of how to PvP well.

Basically, it is like the 8th graders picking the 3rd graders.

It isn't always like this, but more often than not it is. So, is it reasonable to expect these players to fight. No, in fact it is ****ing stupid. So the decced players have found a solution. And those initiating the dec come here and whine about fights that by and large they wouldn't have gotten anyways...or the occassional fight they do get is with some poor schmuck who didn't see the war dec notice in his corp mail and undocked in his min-maxed mission boat.

Here is a suggestion to the corp initiating the war dec: HTFU and STFU.

Reminds me of my time in a wormhole alliance. Some of the miners needed low end minerals to build some ships so they were high sec mining, and some nutless corp war-decced us. We offered to straight up fight them somewhere, they declined. We would show up in system and chase them into station, even when we were outnumbered. They weren't looking for fights and PvP, they were looking for the weak targets to pad their killboard.

Which pretty much shows half of the problem with the war dec system anyway. War decs are used when a much stronger PvP corp wants to beat up a weaker corp. They're not used when two strong corps/alliance want to go at it, as that action is in wormholes or null sec where a war dec isn't necessary.

The WarDec system should just be abandoned. I mean who starts a fight with a notice (here we come!!!)? You should just pay Concord to look the other way and have at IT!!!!

-- Zen

I've learned over my time in eve that only the weak and foolish play by the rules, so in regards to the op's original point when you wardec someone and they leave their alliance and form corp (n+1) and thus become immune to wardec's you could simply gank their transporters, gank their mining barges, gank their shuttlecraft, gank any weak ship...

Yes you lose a lot of cheap disposable ships, but you completely wreck their supply lines and remove their sense of satisfaction or feeling of safety. You can create an alt and try to spy/infiltrate them or use the same alt to set up bogus courier contracts that you know they cant resist (assuming they are into hauling stuff) and blitz their transporters, or simply scan them down when they are missioning and brazenly salvage their loot. You'd be amazed how that gets under people's skin. Find ways to take away the fruits of their labours without using war decs.

Now the question you got to ask yourself is 'do you hate them enough to operate outside the rules'.

Eve is like that, you can always win on your own terms.

So let me get this straight, genius.

You and your buddies find a corp with 150 people in it. You then look at their KB and war dec record and notice:

1. 5 Wars recently.
2. Nary a kill or loss in sight.
3. Dec them.
4. Whine because you don't get a fight.

What an awesome story.