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How much would you pay to be able to Wardec an NPC corp?

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Bloody Wench
#1 - 2013-05-16 05:01:53 UTC
250m a week?

A Billion?....Two? TEN?

I think it would be a good change to the game. Certainly for those hundreds of players in them. Might get them out into some real Corps.

tl:dr Immunity to wardecs is 'tehghey'.

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Cable Udan
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Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2013-05-16 05:04:47 UTC
Oh look, it's this thread again.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Top Belt for Fun
#3 - 2013-05-16 05:07:34 UTC
Obviously the correct answer is to move all NPC corps into the faction war. :)

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Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-05-16 05:08:27 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
250m a week?

A Billion?....Two? TEN?

I think it would be a good change to the game. Certainly for those hundreds of players in them. Might get them out into some real Corps.

tl:dr Immunity to wardecs is 'tehghey'.



There is no cost that makes it worth killing all the rookies and new players in npc corps just to get at those who don't want to be in a player corp. You'd just be killing the game for those people.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-16 05:18:20 UTC
Just treat them like any other corp and base the cost on size.

Of course, if this were allowed you'd just see people create **** tons of one-man corps with which to drop and recreate on a whim.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#6 - 2013-05-16 05:19:16 UTC
The cost would be irrelevant. We'd just form a coalition/alliance in order to pool enough money, even if it's tens of billions per week.

As far as killing newbies goes, although we'd probably agree on some kind of "don't kill if under x days old" rule, the onus would still be on them to join player corporations instead.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#7 - 2013-05-16 05:20:56 UTC
About tree-fiddy.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-05-16 05:23:02 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
As far as killing newbies goes, although we'd probably agree on some kind of "don't kill if under x days old" rule, the onus would still be on them to join player corporations instead.

CCP could easily handle that in code if they were willing to define what a "rookie" actually was.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2013-05-16 05:27:59 UTC
You know what's so sad about this?


What's so sad about this is that there are great possibilities for NPC corporation wars and NPC wars with player corporations that could invite all sorts of gameplay options and opportunities for fun.


But if it were possible, even at high cost for a player corp, or if perhaps NPC corps became warring factions, even temporarily, it would simply be an exercise in noob harvesting, docking foo, and pointless ganking.

So there would have to be some serious arbitrary restrictions so the glee of "yay! our killboards will swell!" will last for 5 minutes. There would have to be an end to station games, for everybody, for example, or there would be a conveyor belt of assault frigs popping rookie ships.


Because people suck. That's why.


Once upon a time a KB full of rookie ships and week-old pods was shameful.


Sandbox and litterbox are two different things.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#10 - 2013-05-16 05:32:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
Some Rando wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
As far as killing newbies goes, although we'd probably agree on some kind of "don't kill if under x days old" rule, the onus would still be on them to join player corporations instead.

CCP could easily handle that in code if they were willing to define what a "rookie" actually was.

They wouldn't, because keep in mind the starter NPC corps would still probably be off-limits. The normal NPC corps mean that the player is old/experienced enough to have been in a player-run corporation at least once, for however long.

In my opinion, players should be dumped into FW NPC corporations after a grace period anyway. FW mechanics might have to be changed so that it's slightly safer in some high-security areas, but otherwise it would be fine.

If people were exposed to this from the start and didn't have a chance to learn ultra carebearism from the get-go, everyone's perception of the game would be different anyway. We wouldn't have these "I just want to mine alone in safety forever" people to begin with. But people would still subscribe in the same numbers. I guarantee it.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-05-16 05:40:38 UTC
7m isk

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#12 - 2013-05-16 06:12:13 UTC
it should be free. not only should it be free but the NPC corp should war dec you for taking out one of its ships.

And of course the NPC's would decimate all but the heartiest nullsec alliances.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

OfBalance
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-05-16 06:24:10 UTC
Wardec all the things~
Jack Miton
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-05-16 07:22:53 UTC
All the isk

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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#15 - 2013-05-16 07:50:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
Then it would only be fair for the NP-Corps to be able to wardec Player Corps in return. But who is to decide that?

Individual NP-Corps member wardecs (against Player Corps or their NP-Corp collegues) might be the solution.

Also, at the very least CCP should start making it a possibility for individual players in NP-Corps to join a war by using the ally system: This would just give another option for those that want to and leave those unharmed that don´t.

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Cable Udan
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#16 - 2013-05-16 08:16:22 UTC
Obligatory 'Over 9000!' post.
Avalon Champion
Gallente Defence Evaluation Research Agency
#17 - 2013-05-16 08:21:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Avalon Champion
Who long would this Grace period be? What about people resubing who were in NPC corps.

Whats to stop you joining a corp and getting booted after 24 hours and returning to the NPC corp for another grace period.

In the end there are too many ways around this.
Darth Kilth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-05-16 08:30:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Kilth
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
The cost would be irrelevant. We'd just form a coalition/alliance in order to pool enough money, even if it's tens of billions per week.

As far as killing newbies goes, although we'd probably agree on some kind of "don't kill if under x days old" rule, the onus would still be on them to join player corporations instead.

And you think people would actually follow that? You can't be that naive.

Very few people that want to fight care bears, indy's, newbies or what ever hangs out in hi-sec care about good fights, honour or any of that silly nonsense.
They just want another kill to add to their kill board and they are not picky.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-05-16 08:32:20 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
250m a week?

A Billion?....Two? TEN?

I think it would be a good change to the game. Certainly for those hundreds of players in them. Might get them out into some real Corps.

tl:dr Immunity to wardecs is 'tehghey'.

So you want to kill one day old players. How sweet.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-05-16 08:47:42 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
tl:dr Immunity to wardecs is 'tehghey'.

What a ******** and stupid idea. I can just imagine now, all the low lifes would be hanging around outside the starter stations waiting for newbs to undock for the first time, and then giggling with glee as they congratulate themselves on their "awesome" kills.

Keep this crap out of Eve please.
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