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Enochx Kaine
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-05-15 23:45:23 UTC
So I decided to play the trial today. I figure I have played every other MMO only to lose interest after awhile, but this game keeps gaining more and more people each and every year. There must be something to that.

I have a request though. Usually with every MMO I tend to roll a character only to stop half way through and reroll. I am constantly restarting and restarting and restarting. I aim to break that cycle now. I have read a little of these forums and have learned that your race is basically cosmetic. Well what about the rest of the character creation? Does it matter what school you go to? And what exactly are the differences between the three schools.....or does it matter? I must choose wisely because I don't want to restart already....I only have 14 days to decide if I want to play this game or not.
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#2 - 2013-05-16 00:09:30 UTC  |  Edited by: NightCrawler 85
Forums does not like me...Read next post please Lol

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#3 - 2013-05-16 00:10:38 UTC
Hey there Smile

Your character, race, bloodline, school and so on means nothing in EVE, unless you want to get into roleplaying.
Every race can fly every ship out there, you just need to cross train. You will find that many people can fly the basic ships from all 4 races and of course the support skills that are needed to support the different ships Smile

I have one advice tho, if you really want to play EVE, and give it a honest chance, forget everything you have learned from any other online game out there. Just start fresh, and dont have any expectations on how things should be if this was (another online game). If you try to get used to EVE with the mindset that it will be the same (or very similar) to your previous online games you will struggle.
And be patient. Without patience you will get bored, frustrated and aggravated and you will quit very soon.
Adding in this just for fun to give you an idea what to expectBig smile

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Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#4 - 2013-05-16 00:11:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Dheeradj Nurgle
Your Race determines your starting skills. (Racial Frigate, and Racial Weapon) The School has no impact, other than your starting system. It might have some Roleplay value, but nothing that will gimp your characters skills.

And the act of "re-rolling" does not exist in EVE. Every character can learn every Skill. If you don't like your current ship/weapons, train into others.

Edit; that "graph" linked by NightCrawler is more of in inside joke that everybody outside of EVE fell for. That "cliff" is how people who approach EVE as any other MMO feel. Relax, and just go with the flow, and it's not too hard, don't be afraid to ask questions.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2013-05-16 00:24:42 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Enochx Kaine wrote:
So I decided to play the trial today. I figure I have played every other MMO only to lose interest after awhile, but this game keeps gaining more and more people each and every year. There must be something to that.

I have a request though. Usually with every MMO I tend to roll a character only to stop half way through and reroll. I am constantly restarting and restarting and restarting. I aim to break that cycle now. I have read a little of these forums and have learned that your race is basically cosmetic. Well what about the rest of the character creation? Does it matter what school you go to? And what exactly are the differences between the three schools.....or does it matter? I must choose wisely because I don't want to restart already....I only have 14 days to decide if I want to play this game or not.

Not really. Your character's starting race, bloodline, ancestry, school, etc. will just decide...

- where you start in the game.
- what NPC corps you fall back to when you are not part of a player corp.
- what starting skills you get.

However...

- it doesn't matter where you start the game. Nothing stops your Caldari character from making a home in Gallente space or vice versa.
- NPC corps don't really matter. None of them have any sort of perks of downsides that set them apart from one another.
- no character race, bloodlone, ancestry, school, etc. has an sort of special skill or ability that the others can't buy and train.
- no character race, bloodlone, ancestry, school, etc. incurs any penalties for training/using skills, ships, and mods that belong to any other character race, bloodlone, ancestry, school, etc.


I'll use myself as an example:

I'm a Gallente national of Gallente bloodline and descend from a family of Activists. I was trained at the University of Calle.
I am currently part of the Minmatar Militia fighting against the Amarr and Caldari and I often use Gallente, Amarr, and Minmatar ships along with all of their respective weapon systems.
If I was any other race it would not matter. I would be able to do all of the same things listed above.

How did you Veterans start?
Yuna Talie-Kuo
Laborantem Societatis
#6 - 2013-05-16 00:29:24 UTC
Hai there. Welcome to the SANDBOX.

And said caps locked word, this is what it is. Scamming, ganking, lying, betrayal, even real world conflicts affect EVE.

Anyways, as stated, all concepts in character creation mean nothing except for roleplaying. I started Gallente, and I fly practically every battlecruiser from all races. In short, patience is key.

Oh, and if you wish to specialize, I suggest looking up what you prefer in terms of combat, or else you've wasted time. THIS DOESN'T MEANT RE-ROLLS, it just means you gotta get back on track.

Every point of SP is NOT WASTED.

YTK

I don't always do shit. But when I do, it's usually worth doing.
Enochx Kaine
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-05-16 00:32:44 UTC
So is there any justification to my second fear? The fear that SINCE this game has been out for ten years that it is kind of pointless to even play it because the Vets are at a level that I will never hope to equal much less surpass.

I don't even know if that is a good explantion of what I am trying to say. I kind of mean that since I am new, there is no possible way for me to achieve the highest levels of whatever this game is.....does that make sense?

Will a person who is begining EvE today, be able to be equal to someone who has been here for year?.......eventually of course. Like will I get to experience everything this game has to offer or will there be aspects that I will never get to see simply because I waited ten years to play the game. I am not even sure THAT makes sense.

People once told me not to bother playing EvE because if you haven't played BY NOW, you will never get to the "end game" or the equivilent of end game for this game. That makes a bit more sense. I am going to stop rambling now. I shall put my four year old to sleep and then start the tutorial........I should probably play the game before asking a bunch of questions.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2013-05-16 00:38:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Yuna Talie-Kuo wrote:
Every point of SP is NOT WASTED.

Exactly this! A skill point you have in a skill you are not using is simply that... something you are not using. You CAN use it if you choose to.

Also... there is no "hard cap" on how many skill points you can accumulate.

Quote:
The fear that SINCE this game has been out for ten years that it is kind of pointless to even play it because the Vets are at a level that I will never hope to equal much less surpass.


Your fear is common but merely a myth.

- All skills cap at level 5. No matter how many years you have played the game, you cannot exceed that limit. And lower level skills (ex. [Racial] Frigate) are very quick to train relative to more advanced skills.

- Only a limited number of skills affect any one ship, module, weapon system, and specialty at any given time.
Ex1: Someone you are facing has about 20 million SP, but how much of that overall SP is actually combat related? He/she could be a HUGE industrial player with limited combat skills.
Ex2: A veteran player has just trained up the skill Large Hybrid Turret to level 5. That skill in no way affects the skill Small Hybrid Turret and thus the veteran will be no better or worse than before at the frigate level.

- Getting a skill from level 4 to level 5 only adds on an extra 2% here, 5% there (exceptions apply). If you simply train up all the skills within a specialty to level 4 (which takes a fraction of the amount of time it takes to get those skills to level 5), you will find yourself flying at about 80 to 90% of the effectiveness of a multi-year veteran with those same skills in that specific specialty at level 5.

- Getting a skill to level 5 is supposed to be a painful train. Many players (yes, even veteran ones) opt to avoid doing it and instead train up other skills to level 4 (again, because it's faster).

- Ships and weapons have been balanced against one another.
Ex: A battleship can potentially instapop a frigate... but the frigate can fly very fast, making it difficult for the battleship's weapons to track, especially at very close range... then again, the battleship can deploy drones to deal with the frigate... and the frigate can shoot the drones down... however the battleship might have a Large Energy Neutralizer fitted to nuke the frigate's capacitor power every 24 second... in which case the frigate could use a Small Nosferatu that sucks out capacitor from the battleship every 3 seconds... etc. etc.

- High tech equipment (ex. T2, Faction, Officer, etc) will not give a player "I WIN" abilities. It simply gives a player a linear edge at an exponentially higher cost.
Ex: A group of two or three T1-fit frigates that cost about 500 thousand to 1 million ISK CAN kill a faction frigate worth about 50 to 100 million ISK... provided they are using the right mods in the right configuration and know what they are doing.


tl;dr...
- the point of the skill system is to force you to learn the game's mechanics and nuances in cheaper equipment and ships... that way when you DO gain access to more expensive equipment and ships, you know HOW to use them properly.

- more SP is not indicative of a pilot's ability. It just means that the pilot has more options in what he/she can do.

- no one ship is superior to everything in the game. Even Titans, the largest ship in the game, has its Achilles heel; smaller ships.

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People once told me not to bother playing EvE because if you haven't played BY NOW, you will never get to the "end game" or the equivilent of end game for this game.

There is no true "end game" in EVE. The goals and actions you set for yourself are the "end game."

How did you Veterans start?
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#9 - 2013-05-16 00:47:00 UTC
The concern you have is a common one, and i will try to explain it in a way that makes sense Smile

EVE does not have "levels" like other games as im guessing you have understood by now. Instead you have skills that can be trained to level 5 at max. There is a LOT of skills and you are looking at YEARS to train all off them (none of the current EVE players are close to hitting the max..try in 20 years unless CCP adds more skills Lol ).

So your question is more..can you compete with an older player? Because of EVE's unique skill system you actually can. When you have trained all your support skills to level 5, your support skills are just as good as the person who has been around for years. You can train for pure industry and be better then someone who has trained nothing but PVP/PVE skills even if they have 100 mill SP and you have 5 mill.

EVE demands more out of you as a person, your patience, your knowledge, your luck and your ability to think on your own.

More SP just means that you can fly more ships, and cover more roles, but at your point you will be more specialized anyway and spend much of your time on core skills.

But short version.. A new player with some knowledge and some luck, can kick the ass of an older player that has little experience with PVP and no skills that supports this. Dont worry about SP.

Also EVE does not have an "end game". It sounds odd but it does not exist in EVE. This is one of the beautiful things with the game Smile
You can do it all, just remember as i mentioned earlier, be a bit patient. It might take you a week, it might take a half year, but you will get there and you will compete with players who has been around for years. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loose, but trust me, its worth the time it took to wait Big smile

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Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#10 - 2013-05-16 00:47:06 UTC
Enochx Kaine wrote:
So is there any justification to my second fear? The fear that SINCE this game has been out for ten years that it is kind of pointless to even play it because the Vets are at a level that I will never hope to equal much less surpass.

I don't even know if that is a good explantion of what I am trying to say. I kind of mean that since I am new, there is no possible way for me to achieve the highest levels of whatever this game is.....does that make sense?

Will a person who is begining EvE today, be able to be equal to someone who has been here for year?.......eventually of course. Like will I get to experience everything this game has to offer or will there be aspects that I will never get to see simply because I waited ten years to play the game. I am not even sure THAT makes sense.

People once told me not to bother playing EvE because if you haven't played BY NOW, you will never get to the "end game" or the equivilent of end game for this game. That makes a bit more sense. I am going to stop rambling now. I shall put my four year old to sleep and then start the tutorial........I should probably play the game before asking a bunch of questions.


It doesn't matter. You will never "catch up" no, but in EVE that all doesn't matter. Early on you can specialize in one type of ship. (Cruisers for example). More skillpoints make you more flexible, but if you're playing for a year you can fly all ships (Tech I) in the game without problems.

Sure, they had more time to train their skills, but there is a point their higher skills give next to no advantage. (Training a month for a 5% damage increase, meh)
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2013-05-16 00:50:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Enochx Kaine wrote:
So is there any justification to my second fear? The fear that SINCE this game has been out for ten years that it is kind of pointless to even play it because the Vets are at a level that I will never hope to equal much less surpass.

I don't even know if that is a good explantion of what I am trying to say. I kind of mean that since I am new, there is no possible way for me to achieve the highest levels of whatever this game is.....does that make sense?

Will a person who is begining EvE today, be able to be equal to someone who has been here for year?.......eventually of course. Like will I get to experience everything this game has to offer or will there be aspects that I will never get to see simply because I waited ten years to play the game. I am not even sure THAT makes sense.

People once told me not to bother playing EvE because if you haven't played BY NOW, you will never get to the "end game" or the equivilent of end game for this game. That makes a bit more sense. I am going to stop rambling now. I shall put my four year old to sleep and then start the tutorial........I should probably play the game before asking a bunch of questions.

Welcome, the difference between Eve and most other MMOs is that there is no level 80 players and no endgame beyond the one you make for yourself, the universe is yours to do with as you wish.

On equality between players, if for example you as a newbie specialised in frigates and cruisers, within quite a short time period you would be the equal of an older player, with many times your overall SP, in the same class of ship. The older players advantage in SP will be negated by the fact that 90% of his skill points have no relation to the ship he is flying, his main advantages would be experience and knowledge of game mechanics. Knowledge of both game mechanics and your ship, what it can and can't do and how you use it are way more important than an arbitrary SP amount.

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-05-16 01:34:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
join goons, skip straight to endgame...

proof: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=235836&find=unread


But honestly, starting out isn't nearly as bad as others have told you. Specialising your skill training is key though, and for this, you will benefit from joining an experienced corp that knows how to pvp. Don't feel as if you have to stay with a corp that doesn't help you, either! There are good corps out there, but for every good corp with experienced members willing to share advice, there are at least 10 corps that for one reason or another, should just not exist.

Chances are you should watch out for 'young' corps with 'young' CEOs. Remember EvE has been around since 2003, so 'young' is relative.


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Enochx Kaine
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-05-16 01:35:19 UTC
When you say 90% of the skill points he has has nothing to do with the ship he is flying, what would those other points be used for? Other ships? Is the benefit of being a 7 year vet just that you can fly any ship you want? Or something like that?

Yall say industry, war, and things like that. The tutorial will enlighten me on those different aspects right? Is there a certain path I should probably stay away from being new?

I think basically what yall are telling me to do is to wipe my mind blank and just play the game. See I have never actually played a sandbox game before. If there is no linear direction...then surely I will be lost. I grew up with the original nintendo mind you. Games go from left to right and keep going right until you get to the castle. Then you jump on the top of the flag pole and do it again.

Just answer me this.......If I eventually wanted to fly a titan (the biggest bird in the flock) then even though I am just starting this game in 2013....I should eventually be able to. right?
Enochx Kaine
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-05-16 01:39:03 UTC
What is the difference between pve and pvp in a sandbox like this game? Like do people who fly titans only pvp or is there pve stuff to do? As soon as my little girl goes to sleep I will quit posting on here and asking questions I swear. And actually play the game, but I like to know as much as possible before jumping in a game so I don't feel the familiar itch to re-roll.
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#15 - 2013-05-16 01:59:35 UTC
Enochx Kaine wrote:
So is there any justification to my second fear? The fear that SINCE this game has been out for ten years that it is kind of pointless to even play it because the Vets are at a level that I will never hope to equal much less surpass.

I don't even know if that is a good explantion of what I am trying to say. I kind of mean that since I am new, there is no possible way for me to achieve the highest levels of whatever this game is.....does that make sense?

Will a person who is begining EvE today, be able to be equal to someone who has been here for year?.......eventually of course. Like will I get to experience everything this game has to offer or will there be aspects that I will never get to see simply because I waited ten years to play the game. I am not even sure THAT makes sense.

People once told me not to bother playing EvE because if you haven't played BY NOW, you will never get to the "end game" or the equivilent of end game for this game. That makes a bit more sense. I am going to stop rambling now. I shall put my four year old to sleep and then start the tutorial........I should probably play the game before asking a bunch of questions.


Nah, a lot is player skill related. Also don't forget this is social game. You'll find yourself in fleets roaming the skies spotting and tackling the weaker wilderbeasts you were hungry for. Does 5% more personal firepower really make a difference when killing off, ransoming your prey? Not much...

You focus your training ship by ship, so the ship you want to fly perfect, you Will fly perfect in a couple of months. Which means whoever you meet, 10 year old vet or green newb will be facing a pilot with perfect skills on his chosen boat.

All SP does is give you more width in the choice of ships to fly and ways of making. Doesn't mean you will ever be as good as a talented pvp pro. Knowledge of game mechanics and quick wits are more important then your skill-level most of the time.

It's important to be social, smart, and to surround yourself with good people. So the choices you make in what corp to join for instance are more important then having all skills at lvl V.

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#16 - 2013-05-16 02:07:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Radius Prime
Enochx Kaine wrote:
What is the difference between pve and pvp in a sandbox like this game? Like do people who fly titans only pvp or is there pve stuff to do? As soon as my little girl goes to sleep I will quit posting on here and asking questions I swear. And actually play the game, but I like to know as much as possible before jumping in a game so I don't feel the familiar itch to re-roll.


You can PVE in every system in EVE, there is a variety of NPC generated stuff to do and some you can only do in low or null sec space. PVP are those that fight over ownership of star systems in 0.0 space versus other alliances. They end up owning the system and all that is in it. Like sites to explore, moons to mine, rats to kill in belts. But people like pirates, criminals who just go out constantly to kill all in sight, suicide gankers in Highsec or gatecampers are also pvp pilots. They make their own content and leech of those, prey upon those conducting business, missioning, mining, ....... whatever else in EVE.

Anyway there is so much to do that doing it all takes years, what you do and how you do it is up to you. That's what makes it a sandbox. There are tons of guides on a variety of stuff to do if you now your way around google, just read up. Or go explore online for yourself..


Edit: Also check this out, some link to guides. It will give you an idea about all the possible occupations in EVE. I did not make this so my thx goes to the one who did! It is brilliant work!

All Professions

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#17 - 2013-05-16 02:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Enochx Kaine wrote:
When you say 90% of the skill points he has has nothing to do with the ship he is flying, what would those other points be used for? Other ships? Is the benefit of being a 7 year vet just that you can fly any ship you want? Or something like that?

Pretty much. Again... only a small fraction of a veteran's total skills are applied at any given time since only a limited number of skills affect any one ship, module, or weapon.

Enochx Kaine wrote:
Yall say industry, war, and things like that. The tutorial will enlighten me on those different aspects right? Is there a certain path I should probably stay away from being new?

Barely. The tutorials will only give you "the basics" in terms of how to perform each activity. The sheer complexity of everything in the game is so great that players who specialize in those areas have had to make their own tutorials. And even those won't do the specialty justice. Run a Google search on almost anything you fancy.

As for what you should be doing as newbie...
there is no right answer. Some (myself included) will tell you to go and get involved in PvP for a bit... just so you understand how people involved in the more "predatory" aspects of the game operate (so you can better avoid them if you want to).

Enochx Kaine wrote:
I think basically what yall are telling me to do is to wipe my mind blank and just play the game. See I have never actually played a sandbox game before. If there is no linear direction...then surely I will be lost. I grew up with the original nintendo mind you. Games go from left to right and keep going right until you get to the castle. Then you jump on the top of the flag pole and do it again/

Hopefully this helps;

See the EVE universe as being a libertarians "wet dream"... just a few steps before pure anarchy and with no solid laws that that enforce the difference between right and wrong.

What would you do in such a world where you, and others like you, are immortal?

Explorer? Looter/raider? Collector? Trader? Harvester? Builder? Pirate? Privateer? Vigilante? Crusader? Foot-soldier? Support-soldier? Diplomat? Middle Management? Propagandist? Evil Overlord? Support to any of the aforementioned roles?

There are people out there who make a career out of making art for other people in-game and get paid in-game money for it.

The sky really is the limit.

Enochx Kaine wrote:
If I eventually wanted to fly a titan (the biggest bird in the flock) then even though I am just starting this game in 2013....I should eventually be able to. right?

Yes... with highly focused training you can eventually get into a Titan in about a year or so. HOWEVER... this is not something I would personally recommend as Titans can't dock and are fairly impotent against any ship smaller than another capital (in EVE, "bigger is not always better").

Enochx Kaine wrote:
What is the difference between pve and pvp in a sandbox like this game? Like do people who fly titans only pvp or is there pve stuff to do?

PvE is VASTLY more predictable compared to a PvP encounter.

There are numerous guides out there detailing what NPC ships do what and how to counter them (just Google them). The developers have been trying to make PvE a bit more unpredictable with varying degrees of success and failure.

In PvP... all bets are off. That frigate making challenges to your battleship? He/she probably has a trick up his/her sleeve. However he/she could just as easily be a nubbin that is in way over his/her head.

How did you Veterans start?
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#18 - 2013-05-16 03:03:40 UTC
This might help you understand the concept behind the term "sandbox". Its a good trailer Smile
EVE Online The Butterfly Effect

Short version...you choose what you want to do, and no matter what choice you make it will affect you and people around you.
For some people they let their real life morales decide their actions, and for others they abuse the fact that EVE allows and encourages you to do things that you would not do in real life. Weather or not this is scamming, stealing, spy, merc, griefing....you get the idea.

There are basically no rules in EVE, only consequences and you have to figure out if its worth the loss, weather or not its covering the cost of your ship because you got blown up by Concord after ganking a hauler in high sec, or your reputation after you pulled off a pretty decent corp theft.

And please keep asking questions.. Thats what these forums are for, and of course other new players will be able to read this thread as well and hopefully get answers to questions they have as well Big smile

And real fast...I have been playing for over 7 years and i still can not fly a titan. This is by choice. In EVE the biggest ship is not always the best, and the hassle of owning one is just something i dont want to bother with (not that i have the ISK for one anyway, way to much forum posting P ).
Remember that even T1 frigs are useful, and you should not aim straight for the biggest and most bad ass looking ship just because they sound cool. Try different ships, get good with them and experiment Smile

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-05-16 03:32:09 UTC
Enochx Kaine wrote:

Will a person who is begining EvE today, be able to be equal to someone who has been here for year?


Don't even concern yourself with that at all. Enjoy EVE where you are in the game. You can have fun at any "level" you are at. Don't worry about getting bigger and "better" ships all the time. EVE isn't hung up on item progression like some other MMOs. There are people here that have been playing for many years who usually fly the smaller ships (like frigates) because they enjoy them.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-16 08:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
As of the usefull stuff already mentioned I will keep it short with a couple of advices:

A. The only thing that REALLY matter in EVE is....are you having fun. Do not worry about maximizing your ISK/hour or catching up inSP with old guys like me. The only thing that you should do is find something that makes you have fun playing the game you pay for.

If you play EVE in a way that you dont like...you are doing it wrong.
If you play EVE so you have fun logging in...keep that going.

And...your goals will shift in EVE. Just follow your own path...

B. Be social, it helps, A LOT.

This doesnt have to mean you should join a corp, but I do advice it. There are plenty of people who are willing to have a chat or help you. That guy that just killed your ship because you jumped into low-sec...He doesnt have to be a jerk, he was mearly having fun in his way playing the game. 99% of those people dont mind helping to get better if you contact them and ask for advice ornwhat happened in a FRIENDLY way.
Then there are plenty people who created their own chat channels in game who most of the time are open to anybody so people can hang around in them and chat (Chribba, Xercodo and myself for example). Then there are public chats of corporations, lots of them use them for recruitment but also many of them dont mind ifnyou hang out in them just for some chat.

Then there is the EVE forums which have their bad parts (COAD & GD) and good parts (NCQA). I personally only look in NCQA as its friendly and I like to help the newblets that try EVE.

But overall in EVE communication is like a mirror. Act like a jerk and be prepared to be answered by jerks. Rage and be prepared to get flamed/trolled. Be friendly and expect a lot of helpfull people to show up.

And...dont be afraid to ask questions. Likely us old guys had the same question when we were newbs. There are no stupid questions beside the one you were afraid to ask.

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