Warfare & Tactics

I don't think they are saying the war dec should follow them as in the entire corp or alliance they join becomes deced.

It would be more like this:

Joe, Bob, Jeff and Ben are in EVE Corp 1

EVE Corp 1 gets war deced.

Joe and Bob quit but the war follows them out of corp for the week and only the 1 week

Joe joins EVE Corp 2 but only person in EVE Corp 2 that can be shot is Joe because he is the only one that was at war in the corp

Bob stays in the NPC corp but can be shot on site by war targets as well.

When the week is close to being over the mercs extend the war dec against EVE Corp 1 only Jeff and Ben will have to worry about the second week of the war.

Subs are at an all time high. Additionally I couldn't care less if people that don't belong in EVE quit. CCP lose subs? Boo fricken hoo. I haven't heard anything about CCP being at the edge of ruination. I'm not prepared to have a bunch of whiners ruin the game and turn it into some theme park because they sign up for a competetive game then don't want to compete since they are apparently special.

Hey CCP I'm an arr-tard that can't understand that sticking my face into fire is bad so please nerf the fire to cater to my needs. Who cares if people can't cook their meal, I'm a new subscriber and that is more important than an old one.

I'm personally a carebear and my corp has faced a bit over a month of constant wardecs which are hugely detrimental to us. I wouldn't mind a system in which we could get a guaranteed breather after beeing at war for a certain time. (Say if we are at war for three out of four weeks in a month then we get a week with war dec immunity, as a quick example. Something vaguely similar) But I would in no way support any measure that protects me with impunity. I'm not prepared to take away something from someone else just because it doesn't interest me.

TL;DR: CCP needs cash is not a valid argument for anything.

(i sound angry but i'm not )

The current war mechanics current work fine (mostly).

The most significant issue in my opinion is the fact that the cost scales with the number of members in a corporation or alliance, but all of the members in the corporation or alliance are able to leave instantly without ever actually being legal war targets. The cost scaling is justified under the notion of "paying for targets" but the reality is that you getting the targets you paid for is contingent on those targets wanting to be targets.

I'm not in favor of characters being trapped in corporations that are at war, but having to pay extra money for people I have no guarantee of being able to shoot at at all is a total shitcake.

It might sound like a trifling complaint but I've seen a 100 man corp drop to 2 members in time it took for a war to go live. When that kind of thing is possible "Paying for targets" does not justify the cost scaling system that currently exists. I wouldn't mind "paying for targets" if I was actually paying for targets.

No one (well, virtually no one) starts wardecs in hisec to have a good fight. They do it to teabag the membership out of the target corp, farm bling kill mails, collect espresso cups (or magnums) full of tears, and engage in risk-free PVP with booster alts, mass guardian (now Execquror-toting disposable alts) and instalock-fluffing while camping undock in market hubs.

Or they join RvB and run headlong at one another like children.

That's it. There is no honour. There is no massive skill. Yes, you mayy win the time war (ala Ibanez Laney's 30 man hours vs 1) but you still waste your own time doing it. if you play the game to bounce safespots for an hour while making someone else camp you in system, then you've won. But if you do that while trying to make impressively soundtracked youtube propaganda videos about the size of your peach-sack clangers (with fleet window blacked out to hide your alts), then you're wasting your own time.

If you dec corps to make them dissolve, then preventing people from leaving for 24 hours is counter-productive. You want people to leave. Especially for newer members and new corps full of flighty, easily bored, easily cowed noobs, leaving corp means they'll never rejoin, and that's a gank which lasts forever. (and yeah, they join another corp, whee, CCP keeps its income rolling).

Preventing people leaving decs is pointless. If they have half a brain, you won't kill them. My favorite response to Pendulum of Dumb was to move to Aridia or Solitude and make even MORE money than I had been humping the market and missions in Empire. The fact they never followed is an indication of how hisec is all about the booster alts, the neutral RR and the tears, not the good fights. People leaving a corp doesn't stop you getting good fights, it stops you farming idiots for their triple-tanked CNR kill mails.

Cry some more tears into your own espresso cup of grief.

Are you saying I need to start making you tube videos now?



I'm working on the soundtrack now just in case.

I was wardecced in 2005 while being in high sec corp and afaik the exploit was to leave and make another corp immediately. Leaving and waiting the war out in npc corp wasn't, as far as I know.

But about making a new corp, I created one a few weeks back and I went through a lot of pain trying to find a ticker that matches with the corp name. It's easier to just not undock for a week... unless that is exploit too :p

Hehe, I even found my old petition about being wardecced. :) Poor Gms, they probably still get those...

how about you check OUR killboards before taking this conclusion. In May we did a bit over 1 TRILLION isk in damage to war targets.


Just because you cannot make war dec works.. that does not mean no one can.

Maybe CCP is trying to encourage the uber 'leet high sec wardec'ers to wardec people that will actually shoot back?!??! Dunno, just spitballing here...

No one prevetns anyone from war deccing US. We pay for our privileges... anyone willing to pay would have them as well.

But you, being in Eve Uni, unsurprisingly have no idea how eve works.

LOOOOOL dude.. check how many kills your alliance had suffered from US this year..... if its nearly impossible to die to war targets.. you guys are impressively bad.. borderline God of Fail level.