EVE General Discussion

You have three toons for each account. I understand player want all of the advantages that come with a 200M skill point toon, but that is a choice.

There are consequecies to that choice.in EvE

Okay, well if those consequences were set by a divine power, I would accept your argument. As things are, they're set by this game's developers, and you've still provided no proof of why they should continue to be so severe.

Again a player choice to make a combat/industrialist/trader/ etc all in one.

Clone cost are not secret. you know what the result is going to be... higher cost of PvP combat.

The game is about risk vs. reward, not risk for absolutely no reason.
A 200m SP pilot doesn't get any more reward out of flying a frigate than a 15m SP pilot with a focus towards frigates, and yet the 200m SP pilot is at significantly greater risk. The result? 200m SP pilots don't fly frigates anymore because it's not worth the risk.

This is fundamentally bad game design.

First, your never offered proof why they shouldn't... other than it cost you ISK

I never said they should be so severe, in fact on another thread I have supported there reduction/change. Just not for the reasons you have offered.

Mining is not an isk faucet.

But arguing that increasing clone costs will result in a greater isk sink is only true to a certain point. After that, people stop flying expensive pods in risky ways so the sink actually decreases despite increased cost.

The argument is that prices are already at that level. It is possible that decreasing clone costs will actually increase the sink due to increased pod losses.

There is no advantage. They are using such toons in combat because it's the toon they have. Why should they be barred from using fun ships just because they've used a single character for a long time?

No, they're not. Mudflation and power creep are kept in check by the skill system, which ensures that an increasingly small portion of your SP is relevant to the task at hand at any given point.

It doesn't matter if you have a 40M character or a 250M character, the most you can put to use in a combat cruiser is around 35M. All the increased clone cost does is push people away from fun gameplay in small ships, even though there is zero connection between total SP and the kinds of ships you can fly. In fact, it does the exact opposite of what you're believing: it creates perverse incentives for alts and for going for “bigger and better” ships, which pushes up the amount of gank and tank that the character has to field to protect those SP, which increases the gank and tank everyone else has to field to combat it… and there's your power creep.

DIsincentivising the use of small ships by old players is horrible design that has no upsides whatsoever.

Yes, I know. What I meant by that was that there are many types of faucets in the game, and players like the poster I quoted don't seem to understand that. All they can do is parrot "ISK sink" over and over again because they have no concept of economics whatsoever.

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No, not having enough real-life bucks to have extra accounts going is not player choice, you royal imbecile.