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Fire Hellmar (not the community team)

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#41 - 2011-10-19 23:28:33 UTC
non judgement wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
non judgement wrote:
If you want to fire the CEO of a private company, you are basically saying you want CCP to stop altogether. Like you'd only be happy if everyone should find new jobs.

It's almost like you're saying you don't want Eve to exist anymore.


CCP has a 7 person board you know.

Well, in anycase, if someone else took over, you don't even know if they'd do any better or if they wouldn't just do the same things anyway.

It's wonderful to call for someones removal without even knowing who'd replace them and if things would actaully improve afterwards.


There is the point that theyd have to get better, it cant really GET worse

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2011-10-19 23:30:06 UTC
non judgement wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
non judgement wrote:
If you want to fire the CEO of a private company, you are basically saying you want CCP to stop altogether. Like you'd only be happy if everyone should find new jobs.

It's almost like you're saying you don't want Eve to exist anymore.


CCP has a 7 person board you know.

Well, in anycase, if someone else took over, you don't even know if they'd do any better or if they wouldn't just do the same things anyway.

It's wonderful to call for someones removal without even knowing who'd replace them and if things would actaully improve afterwards.


There are tons of people that could replace him out there. You know there are lots of people hungry for work these days.


But its like you are saying its better to have a drunk behind the wheel of the care doing 100 down the road then pulling over to the side of the road and letting someone sober drive. I cant hash that line of thinking.

And its not like this is his first real blunder he has had his chances. Hes done. Get him out of there.

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#43 - 2011-10-19 23:39:24 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
There are tons of people that could replace him out there. You know there are lots of people hungry for work these days.

But its like you are saying its better to have a drunk behind the wheel of the care doing 100 down the road then pulling over to the side of the road and letting someone sober drive. I cant hash that line of thinking.

And its not like this is his first real blunder he has had his chances. Hes done. Get him out of there.

All I can say is that was nice, funny and very negative take on things. I hope you have a nice day Smile
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#44 - 2011-10-19 23:41:33 UTC
while the news of layoffs was not new to me, this disturbing bit of detail is new

**** poor decision CCP, trimming the fat is one thing, a regrettable one at that.
but axing the very people who pretty much make the rest of the drooling mid-level accountants over there look good, is a damn stupid move, especially considering what the op referred to with the timeline of derps.

seriously, I feel for you guys having to do this in the first place, and podding your friends in RL sucks, but common, does anyone over there in upper management have half a ******* wit?
why is every major decision made over there come with some unconscionably moronic clause to it?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-10-19 23:45:52 UTC
Guess I'll start reinforcing the bridge I live under for the inevitable influx of trolls that I give a week tops until. Evil

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#46 - 2011-10-19 23:49:23 UTC
Odd feeling...


For the first time I feel like I could live to see the end of EVE Shocked



Didn't really think that was possible with WOW still being so successful. I guess I always assumed EVE Online would remain as "that other game" for decades to come. Not so sure anymore...

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Isometric Isotope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2011-10-19 23:56:49 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Odd feeling...


For the first time I feel like I could live to see the end of EVE Shocked



Didn't really think that was possible with WOW still being so successful. I guess I always assumed EVE Online would remain as "that other game" for decades to come. Not so sure anymore...

Oh come on I just started playing Eve better not end or else i would of waste 20 Bucks : /

My cup Overfloweth with stale coffee!

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#48 - 2011-10-19 23:58:34 UTC
Lot's of upset forum dickwads posting today.

Then again, I'd be upset too if I saw the people who let me run rampant for the last years with no consequences get the boot. Good chance CCP will bring in some hard asses that will shut down the whiny bullshit spewing from this forum pretty quick.

So stop pretending that you care about anything but the fact that you are about to lose the ability to run amok and not get slapped for it.

Yes the so called 'player base' brought this on themselves. Don't blame Hilmar. Blame yourselves.

Mr Epeen Cool
Varcaus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2011-10-19 23:59:25 UTC
Belisarius Xenophon wrote:
Obviously this was necessary.

Community Rep: Mr. CEO, the subscribers are rioting and screaming at our failures! They're unsubscribing in mass!

Mr. CEO: Easily solved. Off with the heads of the community team!

-- chopping sounds offstage --

Mr. CEO: Ah, sweet, sweet silence. I must be winning!


Think this is it and its pretty freaking stupid
Varcaus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2011-10-20 00:00:53 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Lot's of upset forum dickwads posting today.

Then again, I'd be upset too if I saw the people who let me run rampant for the last years with no consequences get the boot. Good chance CCP will bring in some hard asses that will shut down the whiny bullshit spewing from this forum pretty quick.

So stop pretending that you care about anything but the fact that you are about to lose the ability to run amok and not get slapped for it.

Yes the so called 'player base' brought this on themselves. Don't blame Hilmar. Blame yourselves.

Mr Epeen Cool


Its a sandbox we should be allowed to run rampant
Lucrezia Cyborgia
Cuddly Bunnies
#51 - 2011-10-20 00:00:54 UTC
Had some very important things to say but the Big Red Monster got the better of me.

So in short, I support this thread and/or the community team
Jenshae Chiroptera
#52 - 2011-10-20 00:02:23 UTC
♥ ♥ ♥

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

The Apostle
Doomheim
#53 - 2011-10-20 00:18:44 UTC
Neutra RaVe wrote:
Don't worry... SWTOR is just around the corner... A new MMORPG will be here soon to release you of your EVE Online addiction.

Keerist on a cross.
I've been called Hellmar, Riverini and all kinds of things, all unfounded but I'm still happy to play the game.

You Sir, on the other hand, clearly work for another company.

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Montohotep
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2011-10-20 00:30:53 UTC
Easy solution to everyone wanting ppl to get fired...stop playing eve, stop paying for eve....no income....no company...CEO fired.....
As long as there is a demand for what they supply they will do and say everything that can up to the point of losing costumers and business....until EVE players are willing to stop paying/playing the game CCP is going to continue doing what its doing....


After all no matter how many CCP employees say they do what they do for the players....the reality is they do what they do for a paycheck and CCP does what it does in the pursuit of profit.....
Captain Hindsite
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2011-10-20 00:31:17 UTC
Excellent post Spank, ty.
Tuggboat
Oneida Inc.
#56 - 2011-10-20 00:32:16 UTC
Blame the Goons, Hilmar's giving you what you asked for. FIS, no vampires and a supercap and tech nerf... and assault frigates. All their managed propoganda and social engineering, hacking and spying and media manipulations brought us here. but go ahead,

Crucify the good guy and let the killers and thieves go free.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2011-10-20 00:34:48 UTC
Tuggboat wrote:
Blame the Goons, Hilmar's giving you what you asked for. FIS, no vampires and a supercap and tech nerf... and assault frigates. All their managed propoganda and social engineering, hacking and spying and media manipulations brought us here. but go ahead,

Crucify the good guy and let the killers and thieves go free.



No 4 years to give us one ROOM for all that effort is what got us here.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#58 - 2011-10-20 00:52:42 UTC
Tuggboat wrote:
Blame the Goons, Hilmar's giving you what you asked for. FIS, no vampires and a supercap and tech nerf... and assault frigates. All their managed propoganda and social engineering, hacking and spying and media manipulations brought us here. but go ahead,

Crucify the good guy and let the killers and thieves go free.



Wow, you're kind of a dumb one aren't you?

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Tuggboat
Oneida Inc.
#59 - 2011-10-20 00:53:52 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Tuggboat wrote:
Blame the Goons, Hilmar's giving you what you asked for. FIS, no vampires and a supercap and tech nerf... and assault frigates. All their managed propoganda and social engineering, hacking and spying and media manipulations brought us here. but go ahead,

Crucify the good guy and let the killers and thieves go free.



No 4 years to give us one ROOM for all that effort is what got us here.


Dude your face!! Its like theirs no room in your head for a brain!!!!!
Proteus Maximus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2011-10-20 00:54:11 UTC
This is about nothing less than a temper tantrum. A tantrum motivated out of an over inflated ego being challenged and forced under pressure. Make no mistake... the apology was puked out on a keyboard like a glass of sour milk. What we have now is retribution. We have forced a CEO to admit his vision for our game was not going to fly & pissed on his parade.
So we take his master plan and fk it up... Now he is taking something or in this case someone from us.
Mr CEO your job should be the one being cut orvreplaced.. you failed.

If Goons were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it.