EVE General Discussion

Ciao,

I think every explorer (+ every DEV involved in Odyssey scanning mechanics) in EVE should read this blog post from Tiger Ears:
http://www.tigerears.org/2013/05/12/one-handed-scanning-comes-with-odyssey/

Scanning is fun because is HARD. Hunting someone in a WH/Space Anomaly/Whatever place require using combat probes is fun because is HARD. Searching for a WH, pinpointing an anomaly is fun because is HARD... Please don't fix what is not broken, don't make too easy what should stay HARD.

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On a different matter: minigame with scattered loot in anomalies, to "push" people to fly together. CCP, please, acknowledge once and forever that some of us (actually *a LOT* of us in this game) just like the solo stile. We don't want (you don't need) to be "pushed" toward the coop. game, we made a choice to fly solo, we like it this way. We'll keep doing it this way, no matter how hard you push... The space for the solo player is already thin in this game, no need to make it thinner. You can't force us to do something we don't like, so please don't get to the point where you force us to quit the game.

Removing tedium is not even in the same ballpark as removing difficulty.

They removed the deep space probe. So actually they made it harder.

What I said is: there are things that are fun because are hard. Hunting/probing/searching is among them.

Mini-games, hate those that's a sign of turning a game into a theme park.

Part of the reason I got fed-up with GW2 was the addition of retro mini-games and their so called living story.




Agreed games companies should not force players to interact it leads to a false feeling environment, there should be room for solo players even though it is an MMO.


But CCP has tried to get people to do things in the past and it usually fails.

I always say, you can't make people do something that they don't want to do (certainly in a game). If you leave them no room to manoeuvre they will simply unsub.

There was a bit of a learning curve especially with knowing about dsp signatures and quick & optimal probe formations, it seems that is all done for you now with the new scanner in pre set formations.

Wouldnt say it was difficult before but then its the same with most things in eve like learning what angular velocity is and how it effect turrets but not missiles & why, knowing is half the battle.

Brain surgery isn't hard, if you know what you are doing. The fact that you need to learn how to do something properly entails difficulty. Learning how to set up probes in a efficient and timely fashion, signifies "skill". By allowing preset formations may remove some tedium from scanning but it also removes the learning(or skill) factor of setting everything up. The only repetitive action the old scanning system had that was bad was having to launch X amount of probes individually. This could have been resolved by allowing the user to set a number of probes to be launched. Instead they removed any challenge of scanning by having 2 predefined formations, that is optimized for the best results. Aka dumbing down scanning.

I've tried the new scanning system on the test server, my conclusion its it going to be way more fun, and way less annoying, you have no idea how close I've came to punching my monitor due to the current ******** scanning UI... I do a lot of exploration, and the thing that always annoyed me is the time consuming task of fiddling with probe formation constantly each time I must reduce the range of the probes and there is always **** that gets in the way.

Yes it will make it easier but only because it will be less stressful which makes it more fun, op must be one of these people who like to make things as awkward as possible even though its going to annoy the **** out of most others...

some people...

I wouldn't think brain surgery is easy even for an expert as still carries its risks. But I do agree with the rest of what you've said, especially about the optimized predefined formations.