EVE General Discussion

Hey all. I'm a long time resident of lowsec. I've been making the vast majority of my isk doing exploration out there for over two years. That money goes towards ships I throw away doing solo PvP. Lately, I'm noticing a trend in lowsec.

Gate camps are getting a lot more common. I've started seeing them *everywhere*. Gate camps were always a thing and lowsec was no exception, but whereas my previous route I might run into one camp, I'm seeing two or even three guaranteed camps in the span of a 9 system run. Often these are from unaffiliated corps.

Fascinated and mildly annoyed by this, I started researching many of these corps. A lot of them sit in one area camping, and don't do much else. I'm always flying covert and I *never* see these guys ratting or doing missions. And they can't be doing much exploration cause my profit margins haven't changed much. But their killboards don't show any solo PvP or small gang stuff. Just blobs and camps.

But the worst thing about it is how *bad* they are at it. Like, I understand camps are easy to slip through; I make my living doing it. But when I can throw a couple million loot into a destroyer and run 3 camps without a cloak, when 2 of them have stilettos...

Wtf is going on here? Where are these people coming from? How in the world is this profitable or fun for them? When I'm out getting some decent solo fights these guys are just manning these camps 24/7 and not even catching a fraction of their targets.

I mean are they actually making enough isk to get by just scooping from the idiots they kill? I understand their costs are low since they avoid any actual fights. Still, lowsec seems a lot more active these days. I'm seeing activity far away from the fw front. But really, how is this even fun and why are these guys everywhere now? Its as though these guys are somehow made up of the worst of care bear miners and "leet pvpers".

Granted it's been a long time since I've done any gatecamping in lowsec, but I was under the impression that Interceptors + Gate Guns is STILL a bad combo. Possibly why it's so easy to slip past them?

*shrug* Guess you are just a hardcore badass and intrinsically better then they are in every way. Congrats? Maybe you should convo them and give them pointers or something? Hopefully the point of your post was not simply to stroke yourself on the forums.

Stiletto + gate guns doesn't work well.

I rarely bump into non-FW gate camps apart from the usual entry systems. Are the blobs FW or pirate? If they are FW they might be specifically targeting enemy factions.

I was living in lowsec behind the Eve Gate for a long time and I noticed the same thing; lots more players, some doing lowsec indi others camping.

It started to get crowded after Delve blew up last summer. I always just assumed that all the new faces were refugees. Although people that I talked to there claimed this wasn't the case. And I did indeed see some strange gate camps, they were setup more like null camps, but the pilots were not that good; no idea how to decloak someone and low DPS. They did manage to catch a procurer that I brought in to test the tank out.

Maybe they are alts of miners or other highsec residents. Or maybe just a new generation of gamers learning the game.

Or maybe, all the "Highsec guys, please explore lowsec" statements made them to Gatecamp in Lowsec. Nearly everyone wanted that, during CSM voting at least.

Disruptors don't block the microjump drive. If you can delay a scram for 10 seconds you can slip camps super easily with it. I actually need to try cloak + micro jump one of these days, as battleships are the only class of ship that can run into issues with cloak +MWD due to long align times on armor battleships. In theory the addition of the micro jump drive gave battleships a reliable way to slip gate camps. Lord knows every other class of ship has a way already. Which brings me back to my confusion. Cloak MWD is like 99.9% effective on any battle cruiser or smaller, so how do these camps still exist.

What are you talking about? Have you ever fought a gate camp solo before?

Fair enough.

I love you pub lords who post with forum alts and claim to be 7337 pewee pee. Man up stop hiding behind alts. I never have and never will . You know my name come find me. Hint I'm in delve and PVP errrrday.