EVE General Discussion

Sad whiny people are sad whiny people.

Or maybe they're just jealous of the more COD-like mentality that the Dust forums have and feel that they need to sink to a similar level.

I simply don't understand why people who could care less about Dust 514 are caring about Dust 514. It is not like their own personal significance and importance will increase in any way, shape or form - rather the opposite.

Dust is here to stay for the time being and it's CCP's attempt to expand on EVE in a way that hasn't been done before. Whether it succeeds or not is one thing but the insignificant whiners seem to simply refuse to appreciate the fact that CCP is trying something that has never been done before. Then again I hardly expect said people to ever get a Nobel price in anything that has to do with innovation because clearly that seems to be frowned upon.

To me, the attempt is a lot more valuable than the result itself because that shows that games can still evolve and go to whole new levels. That despite not owning any consoles, never having played Dust and generally never had anything to do with Dust from the EVE side.

So whiners, go ahead and keep whining and keep showing us just how insignificant you lot truly are.

This is not some small scale production made by a backwater company staffed to the bear minimum... They have been working on this for years, CCP is a name in the game industry now. They had budget, time, community, publicity & all the staff they wanted so if DUST fails only CCP will be to blame for not reading the market right.

You compare with EVE while it can't and shouldn't be compared. Immediate results are to be expected or heads should and will roll. Stop making excuses.

FPS players are fickle in the first place. No FPS game is an island... I mean, try driving an LAV in DUST. It sucks. It's really NOT fun at all. Halo Warthog? Ghost? Banshee? All a blast. I think a lot of people tried DUST, figured out the game well enough, and decided to just soak in the passive SP and wait to see if it gets better. There's not a lot of risk in doing that when the game is free to play.

Because they could have opened the door in CQ and let me be Han Solo instead of creating a generic console shooter that lets me be a derpo version of a space marine with suits stolen directly out of Blacklight Retribution.

Innovation indeed.

Playstation 3 is actually the more popular platform. Again Americans view differs from the rest of the world. They think because in their country one dominates the other this reflects the situation in the rest of the world. Never met a people more turned in on itself.
Short Anecdote: Remember when I bought my American son a playstation when we moved back to Europe. PS3 sucks hard blablabla, and yes couldn't blame him since in the US all his friends owned an Xbox and so did he. Told him you'll need it here and guess what, I was right. All his new friends owned PS3s and the kid cried when he had to give it up to move back to the States.
Hope at least it thought him not to generalize as a lot of US people tend to do.

Whoa, almost as much as a ten-dollar indie shooting game on Steam!

I wonder what EVE would be like if they had developed it instead of DUST and WoD

Which is pretty funny because the dream-foundation of the Xbox initial concept was that, being Microsoft, it would be the system that broke down the barrier between console and PC gamers by letting them all play the same games together. In fact, they actually designed and built the technology to do exactly that...

... and then they tested it.

The whole company went flaccid in two seconds when they realized, after the fact, what is obvious: Keyboard & Mouse allows for reaction times and levels of insane precision that no console controller could ever hope to match. In every FPS game they linked together the PC gamers simply trounced all over the console gamers through the sheer ease of perfect aiming with a mouse while moving with a nice, familiar (and customizable) keyboard versus trying to twiddle two goofy knobs, half a dozen buttons and four triggers all at once on a controller the size of a small sandwich.

Of course all the console kiddies were screaming "HAX!" even though it was done in Microsoft's own little test labs. The quickly realized that after spending all those years and all that money in making their systems compatible with each they still were miles apart when it come to making them comparable to each other.

And that, kids, is why DUST will never be on the PC, and what games are released for both console & PC will forever be cleanly segregated into their own little worlds when it comes to server choices. Yes, they can cross-connect - the technology is there, the coding is there - but they're never going to let it actually happen because doing so would basically makes their entire console demographic ragequit in five minutes. Being that their marketing gurus of all the big game development companies have brainwashed them all into thinking that console profits are the only way to go and that PC ports are just an afterthought, they'd rather lose the entire PC demographic (and they have) by throwing away the cross-platform compatibility thing than risk losing any their juice console money-tosser core group.

So in summary: They actually could make a PC version of DUST. Heck, they probably have one laying around already. But you'll never see it... at least not until the console DUST playerbase drops below the threshold where CCP just says "Screw it, remarket it to our EvE players and to hell with the five people still playing it on PS3."

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yea I thought about that as well, it seems they pour recourses into the wrong things