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well im stuck...and need some pve advice/isk making"impatient"
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Citizen Smif
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-10-20 12:38:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Citizen Smif
I don't know how people can make anywhere near to 60 mil for lvl 4s.. I fly a maelstrom, not even really low SP and I barely exceed 15 mil an hour for them. Maybe i just suck though ;) Incursions, however, are crazily good for income.. But there not as easy and consistent as everyone makes out. You CAN make 100 mil+ an hour but that relies on your fleet being better than everybody elses, or at the very least there be little competition about. Plus you'll struggle to get into fleets (especially in crowded incursions) without a shiny ship or t2 guns.
Hyperr
Alpha Qew
#22 - 2011-10-21 03:39:11 UTC
Citizen Smif wrote:
I don't know how people can make anywhere near to 60 mil for lvl 4s.. I fly a maelstrom, not even really low SP and I barely exceed 15 mil an hour for them. Maybe i just suck though ;) Incursions, however, are crazily good for income.. But there not as easy and consistent as everyone makes out. You CAN make 100 mil+ an hour but that relies on your fleet being better than everybody elses, or at the very least there be little competition about. Plus you'll struggle to get into fleets (especially in crowded incursions) without a shiny ship or t2 guns.



see thats what im trying to figure idk if i should go for incursions or just the security of going for a blasting ship on sanshas ratting sanctums/whs etc
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#23 - 2011-10-21 04:51:23 UTC
Citizen Smif wrote:
I don't know how people can make anywhere near to 60 mil for lvl 4s.. I fly a maelstrom, not even really low SP and I barely exceed 15 mil an hour for them. Maybe i just suck though ;) Incursions, however, are crazily good for income.. But there not as easy and consistent as everyone makes out. You CAN make 100 mil+ an hour but that relies on your fleet being better than everybody elses, or at the very least there be little competition about. Plus you'll struggle to get into fleets (especially in crowded incursions) without a shiny ship or t2 guns.


Blitz missions, reject missions that are known timesinks. Keep records of time and payouts so that you know for sure which missions to reject, mission in places where there are plenty of people that don't blitz to keep the lp payouts high. Check contracts regularly for items that will trade at your desired conversion rate or better. Can do it when warping to/from missions - you do that a lot when blitzing.

In any case I have found at least 1 method of making 20mil/hr in highsec with not much better than a trial account in a frigate (though this is finite in players it will support), and 2 methods of making 60mil /hr in highsec, one with this character and one with my indy alt. One method is very spikey for income (last night was 180mil/hr, but thats obviously not consistent), the other requires hauling capacity and capital.
Tuggboat
Oneida Inc.
#24 - 2011-10-22 03:14:11 UTC
Go with wormholes.

Get a cloaky, explore scout and scan like one of the first posters said, you need scouting and scanning skills for wormholes, find a wormhole corp, you will get PVP ISK and one of the best parts of the game and all your exploration, pvp, mining retriever and PVE will all start to dovetail nicely together... with time.

Missions and Incursions could turn you into a PVE guy with a little pvp. These wormholes will give you more real pvp in the proportions I think your looking for. Its easy to get into the money trap on PVE. There's always just one more faction mod, one slightly bigger ship then it gets expensive and if you lose a couple you can get risk averse.

That exploration stuff is solo but wormholes will require teamwork and being responsible to your corp. While your learning to explore, you might join a jump clone service and train up and spread some clones and ships around too.
Firebolt145
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#25 - 2011-10-22 09:11:26 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
The only quick way is buy game time and sell plex for isk.

As for incursions for 100 mil/hr and missioning for 60 mil/hr, those are inflated forum warrior BS numbers pulled out of their ass, you're not getting it.

C5/6 whs are vastly profitable, but it also requires high sp and being tucked away from civilization. If there aren't intruders looking for a fight, which don't happen in high class whs, you don't get pvp.

Chaining sanctums with ratting thanny used to offer 100+ mil/hr non BS figure, while still being close to civilization for fights, but they got nerfed. So now it's still profitable per tick/site, but you won't get them nonstop for big money.

Exploration is hit or miss. Luck's a *****. You can spend all day for zip.

So if I were to say that I mission for 150m/hr++, would you say I have a reeeaaaaaally big ass?
Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-10-22 15:38:43 UTC
Firebolt145 wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
The only quick way is buy game time and sell plex for isk.

As for incursions for 100 mil/hr and missioning for 60 mil/hr, those are inflated forum warrior BS numbers pulled out of their ass, you're not getting it.

C5/6 whs are vastly profitable, but it also requires high sp and being tucked away from civilization. If there aren't intruders looking for a fight, which don't happen in high class whs, you don't get pvp.

Chaining sanctums with ratting thanny used to offer 100+ mil/hr non BS figure, while still being close to civilization for fights, but they got nerfed. So now it's still profitable per tick/site, but you won't get them nonstop for big money.

Exploration is hit or miss. Luck's a *****. You can spend all day for zip.

So if I were to say that I mission for 150m/hr++, would you say I have a reeeaaaaaally big ass?


I'd just say you were delusional or lying.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
Firebolt145
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#27 - 2011-10-22 20:33:33 UTC
Desudes wrote:
Firebolt145 wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
The only quick way is buy game time and sell plex for isk.

As for incursions for 100 mil/hr and missioning for 60 mil/hr, those are inflated forum warrior BS numbers pulled out of their ass, you're not getting it.

C5/6 whs are vastly profitable, but it also requires high sp and being tucked away from civilization. If there aren't intruders looking for a fight, which don't happen in high class whs, you don't get pvp.

Chaining sanctums with ratting thanny used to offer 100+ mil/hr non BS figure, while still being close to civilization for fights, but they got nerfed. So now it's still profitable per tick/site, but you won't get them nonstop for big money.

Exploration is hit or miss. Luck's a *****. You can spend all day for zip.

So if I were to say that I mission for 150m/hr++, would you say I have a reeeaaaaaally big ass?


I'd just say you were delusional or lying.

Roll
Mousserande
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2011-10-23 00:05:06 UTC
If you can fly a bomber and you arent bound to a corp you could join FW. You can make really good isk from FW missions, if you are very effective and know how to convert LP into isk I´d say 100 m/h is not far away. Also there is some decent pvp if you´d like and the smacktalk is epic.
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