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Hyperion on SISi - new configuration and nerf
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ThunderRa
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-11 18:38:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ThunderRa
Hi, what is happening with Hyperion on SISI, seems now it has 7 high slots, 6 Turrets slots and 1 more low slot, plus better drone bay and bandwidth(175/125) also has 10% dps bonus per level so theoretically it looks good, but overall results dps like are a dramatic decrease from 1600 dps with 8 Neutron Blaster Cannons II and Void L ammo(3 Mag stabs in low also) to 1300 dps for the same fit on SISI.
In order to at least maintain his good old dps, it either needs 15% bonus to Hybrid Turret Damage per level, or one extra Turret slot. Hope it won't stay in it's actual config as it just going to be another Oddysey nerf CryUgh.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#2 - 2013-05-11 21:56:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
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Talin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-11 23:36:26 UTC
Too further clarify the Hyperion is now considered a COMBAT CLASS ship. That means its essentially a tank/enhanced support options. Meaning you are no longer meant to do damage you are meant survive for longer periods.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#4 - 2013-05-12 00:15:50 UTC
A decrease in ~15% of your DPS does not mean that you're no longer meant to do damage.. Rather that it won't be your strongest attribute anymore.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#5 - 2013-05-12 00:32:17 UTC
I for one support our new Hyperion overlords.
Dyniss
KarmaFleet University
#6 - 2013-05-12 04:33:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyniss
3 mag stabs on the old Hyperion with only 6 low slots? So you shield buffered a ship bonused to active armor tanking? Sounds pretty stupid to me. Roll Now it's current remodel is A LOT more useful and versitile than its predecessor. The ability to now fit a dual active armor tank with dual cap boosters while still keeping a 1000 dps offensive is pretty good! Plus you can still fit a web, point, and a mwd plus you now have an open high slot for other stuff. All in all the new Hyperion is a vastly improved version of it's former crappy self.
ThunderRa
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#7 - 2013-05-12 05:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ThunderRa
Yeah well I confess: was using a passive shield tank on the old Hyperion, just for the purpose of making it dishing more dps. I just feel bad that almost every new rebalanced ship CCP now comes with has lower dps than the older fit. Don't get me wrong here, I like the fact that is a more versatile gunboat, but I would have liked it more if it kept it's old dps at least BlinkIdea
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#8 - 2013-05-12 08:46:51 UTC
ThunderRa wrote:
Yeah well I confess: was using a passive shield tank on the old Hyperion, just for the purpose of making it dishing more dps. I just feel bad that almost every new rebalanced ship CCP now comes with has lower dps than the older fit. Don't get me wrong here, I like the fact that is a more versatile gunboat, but I would have liked it more if it kept it's old dps at least BlinkIdea


You can use a mega with four magstabs if you want 1600+ dps. Got four midslots already and a neat tracking bonus!
ThunderRa
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#9 - 2013-05-12 12:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: ThunderRa
Lloyd Roses wrote:
ThunderRa wrote:
Yeah well I confess: was using a passive shield tank on the old Hyperion, just for the purpose of making it dishing more dps. I just feel bad that almost every new rebalanced ship CCP now comes with has lower dps than the older fit. Don't get me wrong here, I like the fact that is a more versatile gunboat, but I would have liked it more if it kept it's old dps at least BlinkIdea


You can use a mega with four magstabs if you want 1600+ dps. Got four midslots already and a neat tracking bonus!


Indeed I can and I already have one but we are discussing the Hyperion here, maybe I don't need to remind you that is top Gallente T1 Battleship and with current Sisi config it falls not only behind the Megathron but behind the Dominix as well dps like, which is not the case with the other factions T1 Battleship lines. I just don't think any drone bay and low slots enhancements can justify that P.
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#10 - 2013-05-12 18:30:14 UTC
Talin wrote:
Too further clarify the Hyperion is now considered a COMBAT CLASS ship. That means its essentially a tank/enhanced support options. Meaning you are no longer meant to do damage you are meant survive for longer periods.


Did you ever PVP in EVE? Hyperion had bonuses for tanking and damage already. The tanking will always be useless no matter what because active tanking armor simply does not work.